Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate

They use fake VISAs to rent rack time, as you mentioned they can't pirate
rack time.

So Tony, if you get the money 30 - 31 days before they start on the racks,
within that 30-31 day period you will be able to find out if the CC they
are using is fake or not. When we called the CC, they told us that this was
the best solution.

Daniel, some times it's impossible to find out the person, if someone uses
a fake VISA, you will never know the real person behind it. You will know
where it was initiated, but you will not know who that person is.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:

> We've had the same problem over the years and it does usually come in
> bunches. You can download pirated material but you can't pirate rack time
> ;-)
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> On 03/22/2012 06:42 AM, Tony Schaffran wrote:
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>> I would just like to get a consensus of our relatively small CCIE
>> community.
>>
>> Feel free to tell me to pack sand and suck it up, but it is hard to
>> believe
>> we are the only ones experiencing this.
>>
>> We have been providing rack services for a little more than 10 years now.
>>
>> Up until this last year, we have not had to deal with one single fraud
>> case.
>> Maybe just lucky, but I like to think that is what should be expected of
>> the
>> person striving to be a CCIE.
>>
>> Recently, we have been hit with an alarming number of users paying for
>> their
>> rack time with stolen credit cards.
>>
>> I do not want to profile, but this problem appears to be only coming from
>> one region of the world.
>>
>> Is this the integrity of the future CCIE's we have to look forward to? I
>> seriously hope not.
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> You can hit me offline if you want so this does not start a firestorm on
>> groupstudy. J
>>
>>
>> Tony Schaffran
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