Re: PhD vs CCIE

LMAO! Consider it done next time I see you... What was it??? Ketel One
Screwdriver?

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> Neither Bill nor I would be wanting coffee... Something significantly
> stronger would be MUCH more appreciated! ;)
>
>
> On 3/6/12 3:23 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
> > As a matter of fact I have... I think we're connected on LinkedIn, and I
> > keep all of my info up to date there. It's basically a living, breathing
> > resume. I'm pretty open about everything...
> >
> > Ronald Angello - CCIE 17846
> >
> > Early in my career (starting at age 16), I worked at a national
> accelerator
> > facility where I was exposed to people of many different nationalities
> and
> > cultures. I worked there for 12 years supporting the various accelerator
> > electronics systems, control system, and controls / data acquisition /
> > scientific computing / high performance computing networks that make the
> > electron beam reach its target for all of the physicists from all over
> the
> > world to research the nucleus of the atom. I started there terminating
> > fiber and UTP, then configuring routers, switches, and single-board I/O
> > controllers. We looked like rock stars when we replaced those damned
> Fore
> > PowerHubs that crashed daily! I worked as Network Administrator for the
> > entire site before I left there in 2006. I recall attending a Joint
> Techs
> > conference where I met Dr. Scott Shenker... pretty cool to see what he's
> up
> > to these days!
> >
> > More recently I worked as a Sr. Global Net Eng / Network Architect for a
> > Fortune 100 headquartered in the UK, consisting of 20+ operating
> companies
> > in 20+ countries. I designed and implemented a global network - global
> WAN
> > and data centres. Yes - I had the pleasure of working with BT and Orange
> > /sigh (no offense to any of you that work for either telco). I lead a
> > "Global Network Services Council" that had the unfortunate task of
> > developing global standards for networking.
> >
> > The challenge for me wasn't sitting on conference calls all day with
> folks
> > across the pond in UK, FR, DK, etc., but there was a technical barrier
> > between myself and my counterparts. No one over there even had as much
> as
> > a CCNA. I grew tired of all of the politics and micromanagement, and
> quite
> > honestly, I became more interested in flipping my salary.
> >
> > The last straw for me was not all of the op co's undermining the
> standards
> > that we worked so hard to develop and get approved... not management
> > ruining my chance to go work for Cisco... not me paying $2k a pop out of
> > pocket twice to go to Chicago to take the CCDE practical exam... but my
> > manager making me take vacation each time for those 3 days. Vacation is
> > hard to come by over here! Leaving was the best move I ever made, and I
> > could NEVER go back to a typical 8-5.
> >
> > See, I still can't think of anything about sitting in a classroom or
> > virtual classroom that could replace any of that. BTW - if anyone ever
> > asked me to fetch them coffee or cake, they would have a serious problem
> > on their hands... unless it was Scott Morris or Dr. Bill Parkhurst! :)
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Bill6521 <bil6521_at_netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong but have
> many
> >> of
> >> you guys really had international experience by that I mean not just the
> >> odd
> >> business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a bit of install ,
> >> configuration etc but a real international project - say of 18 months
> >> duration
> >> etc. I mean I was talking to my USA colleagues on a project here and the
> >> differences between how CCIEs operate and are regarded in the USA and in
> >> Europe for example are staggering. The differences are not just via
> >> language
> >> but also cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way true
> >> international experience is regarded as a big plus by most companies.
> >>
> >>
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