Re: PhD vs CCIE

Neither Bill nor I would be wanting coffee... Something significantly
stronger would be MUCH more appreciated! ;)

On 3/6/12 3:23 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
> As a matter of fact I have... I think we're connected on LinkedIn, and I
> keep all of my info up to date there. It's basically a living, breathing
> resume. I'm pretty open about everything...
>
> Ronald Angello - CCIE 17846
>
> Early in my career (starting at age 16), I worked at a national accelerator
> facility where I was exposed to people of many different nationalities and
> cultures. I worked there for 12 years supporting the various accelerator
> electronics systems, control system, and controls / data acquisition /
> scientific computing / high performance computing networks that make the
> electron beam reach its target for all of the physicists from all over the
> world to research the nucleus of the atom. I started there terminating
> fiber and UTP, then configuring routers, switches, and single-board I/O
> controllers. We looked like rock stars when we replaced those damned Fore
> PowerHubs that crashed daily! I worked as Network Administrator for the
> entire site before I left there in 2006. I recall attending a Joint Techs
> conference where I met Dr. Scott Shenker... pretty cool to see what he's up
> to these days!
>
> More recently I worked as a Sr. Global Net Eng / Network Architect for a
> Fortune 100 headquartered in the UK, consisting of 20+ operating companies
> in 20+ countries. I designed and implemented a global network - global WAN
> and data centres. Yes - I had the pleasure of working with BT and Orange
> /sigh (no offense to any of you that work for either telco). I lead a
> "Global Network Services Council" that had the unfortunate task of
> developing global standards for networking.
>
> The challenge for me wasn't sitting on conference calls all day with folks
> across the pond in UK, FR, DK, etc., but there was a technical barrier
> between myself and my counterparts. No one over there even had as much as
> a CCNA. I grew tired of all of the politics and micromanagement, and quite
> honestly, I became more interested in flipping my salary.
>
> The last straw for me was not all of the op co's undermining the standards
> that we worked so hard to develop and get approved... not management
> ruining my chance to go work for Cisco... not me paying $2k a pop out of
> pocket twice to go to Chicago to take the CCDE practical exam... but my
> manager making me take vacation each time for those 3 days. Vacation is
> hard to come by over here! Leaving was the best move I ever made, and I
> could NEVER go back to a typical 8-5.
>
> See, I still can't think of anything about sitting in a classroom or
> virtual classroom that could replace any of that. BTW - if anyone ever
> asked me to fetch them coffee or cake, they would have a serious problem
> on their hands... unless it was Scott Morris or Dr. Bill Parkhurst! :)
>
> Ronnie
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Bill6521 <bil6521_at_netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong but have many
>> of
>> you guys really had international experience by that I mean not just the
>> odd
>> business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a bit of install ,
>> configuration etc but a real international project - say of 18 months
>> duration
>> etc. I mean I was talking to my USA colleagues on a project here and the
>> differences between how CCIEs operate and are regarded in the USA and in
>> Europe for example are staggering. The differences are not just via
>> language
>> but also cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way true
>> international experience is regarded as a big plus by most companies.
>>
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