Re: PhD vs CCIE

Cisco Worldwide Field Operations will now be organized into three geographic
regions, to drive faster decision making with greater accountability and
alignment. These regions include the Americas (U.S., Canada, and Latin
America); Europe, Middle East and Africa; and Asia Pacific/Japan/Greater
China..

Channel Intelligence: In Europe Ciscobs products are sold through Partners,
which makes Channel Intelligence a vital area in the intelligence framework.
Cisco is monitoring their 1st and 2nd tier resellers, system resellers, direct
sales partners, integrators, distributors, as well as emerging channels.

So when I want to buy a Cisco system for an end customer on an international
project in the Americas I can go direct to Cisco and get the equipment, the
Smartnet, everything direct from Cisco. In Europe , Middle East, and Africa;
and Asia Pacific/Japan/Greater China I cannot do that - sure I get advice from
Cisco and technical input but I have to buy via the Channel Partner. Heres how
Smartnet works in that instance.

Cisco Sells Smartnet to partner (When you buy a Cisco product in Europe I
believe the partner has to buy at least three months Smartnet automatically
even if the end customer doesnt want it) --Partner sells service level to
customer which in many cases Smartnet is only one component as most European ,
Middle East, and Africa; and Asia Pacific/Japan/Greater China companies want
more than Smartnet provides.

Regards,

Bill ..

Channel Intelligence: In Europe Ciscobs products are sold through Partners,
which makes Channel Intelligence a vital area in the intelligence framework.
Cisco is monitoring their 1st and 2nd tier resellers, system resellers, direct
sales partners, integrators, distributors, as well as emerging channels.

So when I want to buy a Cisco system for an end customer on an international
project in the Americas I can go direct to Cisco and get the equipment, the
Smartnet, everything direct from Cisco. In Europe , Middle East, and Africa;
and Asia Pacific/Japan/Greater China I cannot do that - sure I get advice from
Cisco and technical input but I have to buy via the Channel Partner. Heres how
Smartnet works in that instance.

Cisco Sells Smartnet to partner (When you buy a Cisco product in Europe I
believe the partner has to buy at least three months Smartnet automatically
even if the end customer doesnt want it) --Partner sells service level to
customer which in many cases Smartnet is only one component as most European ,
Middle East, and Africa; and Asia Pacific/Japan/Greater China companies want
more than Smartnet provides.

Regards,

Bill ..

-----Original Message-----
From: Mihai Grigore <mihai.grigore_at_onlinehome.de>
To: 'Bill6521' <bil6521_at_netscape.net>; ccielab <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:05
Subject: RE: PhD vs CCIE

Can you please elaborate on the differences between how CCIEs operate in US
nd Europe?
-----Original Message-----
rom: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
ill6521
ent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 7:18 PM
o: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
ubject: PhD vs CCIE
Hi Guys,
Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong but have many
f you guys really had international experience by that I mean not just the
dd business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a bit of install ,
onfiguration etc but a real international project - say of 18 months
uration etc. I mean I was talking to my USA colleagues on a project here
nd the differences between how CCIEs operate and are regarded in the USA
nd in Europe for example are staggering. The differences are not just via
anguage but also cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way true
nternational experience is regarded as a big plus by most companies.

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Received on Tue Mar 06 2012 - 15:26:29 ART