Re: CCO Downloads.

Good CCIE's are often asked to make business impact decisions on behalf of management regarding technology purchasing and procurement. (At least the good ones are asked. :)

There is more to the job than the test...

How many CCIE R/S's don't know about shared/vs dedicated on the Nexus line cards? Well 3 I know of, I just redesigned to get more bandwidth :)

So I chime in if I think it will help the CCIE candidates outclass - layer 8 or 1 through 7.

I don't see how that's not relevant...

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 04:18 AM
To: Ryan Lindfield <ryan_at_westchasetech.com>
Cc: Jonathan Greenwood II <gwood83_at_gmail.com>; Joseph L. Brunner; Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>; JB Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>; <jazzsunn_at_gmail.com> <jazzsunn_at_gmail.com>; Travis Niedens <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCO Downloads.

And all this is relevant for CCIE R&S candidates for their studies... how?

Please guys, take this offlist or to Cisco NSP.

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Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
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On Feb 24, 2012, at 23:51, "Ryan Lindfield" <ryan_at_westchasetech.com> wrote:
> HP Networking is 3% of HP's value according to treffis.com  so a net loss of 44% doesn't relate to networking. From other reports I've seen HP is gaining ground in the networking world as Cisco gains ground in the server / blade server market.
> 
> The last report I saw showed Cisco as #2 in x86 blade servers in North America passing IBM & Dell. But that doesn't mean they are stealing market share from HP.
> 
> I think both Cisco & HP are gaining market share, while they may not be taking it from the other or taking it marginally, a lot of smaller vendors are getting squished as the titans duke it out. HP is as likely to displace Cisco from networking as Cisco is to take the computing lead away from HP. In the server world there are guys that swear by HP, and of course others that swear at it. (I like UCS personally)
> 
> What's killing HP is that many consumers don't need PC's they just want a laptop. And when people buy laptops, smart ones anyhow are going to Apple, those that don't really need a laptop are going to tablets, and their not buying HP here either. Another debate entirely, just pretend I didnbt say the Apple part and keep going.
> 
> There are lots of angles to pick and choose from, all-in-all the H3C/HP platform is quite capable, and as a consumer I appreciate the competition, I've been able to score great deals on cisco servers and HP networking equipment over the last two years, and I have a happy/ healthy mixed environment in different environments. The competition helps the consumers in the end. As a consultant I make the same, and I don't feel like either company is looking out for me in any way.
> 
> Cisco's big advantage that Jonathan points out is the all-in-one security solution. It's obviously not a single product, but a portfolio that encompasses everything from anyconnect running on your ipad to 802.1x / mac sec, iron port coupled with botnet filter, leading market share on  switches which results in ubiquitous user experience, down to the hot new asa1000v coupled with Nexus 1000v.Cisco has a product for every scenario (except event monitoring RIP MARS) and is the only vendor offering complete end-to-end solution working in nearly-perfect harmony. Nobody else in the industry can touch this. They're selling a broad collection of "point products".
> 
> Just comparing switches to switches though, if you're not tasting the wares from the other vendors and blindly buying Cisco you may be missing out.
> 
> In summary, don't dislike the other vendors without spending some time on the other vendors. If you've got 100 hours on HP / Juniper, then sure tell me how Cisco's better, but if you haven't put in some stick-time on them, and aren't reading anything but Cisco it's time to take off the blinders and quit drinking their Kool-aid.
> 
> Try to remember the relationship of who-needs-who, and look at how this conversation got started.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Ryan
> 
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> -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Greenwood II
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:48 PM
> To: Joseph L. Brunner
> Cc: Radioactive Frog ; JB Poplawski ; jazzsunn_at_gmail.com ; Travis Niedens ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCO Downloads.
> 
> Hey Joe,
> 
> I guess our facts of life are different, but the process to get
> re-furbished gear back on smartnet is not like it use to be and the premium
> you pay might as well buy it legitmately.  Just went through this with a
> customer who exclusively used NHR in the past until the recent policy
> change enforced by Cisco for CCO downloads/hardware replacements via
> smartnet contracts.
> 
> For small mom and pop's or fortune1000/2000's as you like to classify that
> don't run advanced features like voice/video/security such as dot1x posture
> checking down to the access layer you're right, they can go with a switch
> from Walmart to do that.  Most organizations that have that setup are
> actually rip/replacing that crap because they want the
> security/collaboration and feature sets of an advanced network.  With all
> the rampant hacking security is hot right now in most organizaitons and I'm
> seeing NAC solutions flying out the door which requires an access switch
> capable of some advanced features from any vendor.  Those procurves/dells
> are being given away because they're dead weight :)  But when I speak of
> market share I speak globally not just here in the US so your #'s are way
> off buddy.
> 
> Brocade is on the verge of being sold or spinning of their ethernet side of
> house because they're selling their crap so cheap just to get a foot in the
> door that the low margins are actually hurting them.  HP is doing the same
> with their gear as well and not making any money off of it at the end of
> the day.  Juniper is making some strides on the ethernet side at the cost
> of loosing focus on their firewalls/SP routing domain that they've always
> done well with which is not good.
> 
> I follow the trends pretty well and it's definitely not tight for Cisco,
> but more so for HP if you caught the latest news from Meg Whitman.  Here
> are few recent articles and one from the biggest Cisco basher I know "Jim
> Duffy" from network world so I can point to something who is definitely not
> pro-Cisco:
> 
> IDC's Worldwide Quarterly Enterprise Networks Tracker Shows Record Ethernet
> Switch Results; Router Market Declines
> http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23338212
> 
> Pay specific attention to this line in the article:
> 
> From a vendor perspective, Cisco's Ethernet switch (Layer 2/3) market share
> in 4Q11 came in at 64.3%, reflecting a significant improvement from earlier
> in the year. On a relative basis, Cisco continues to be strong in the 10GbE
> segment where it now has 69.5% of the market in 4Q11.
> 
> Whitman gives HP harsh report card, outlines recovery plan
> 
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/022312-whitman-gives-hp-harsh-report-25
> 6474.html
> 
> Cisco Q4 Ethernet switch revenue up, HP's down
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/022412-cisco-ethernet-switch-256544.htm
> l?hpg1=bn
> 
> What info are you referring to so I can reference???
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> 
>> Johnathan,****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> In the Lan switching market HP procurve alone has a 30% market share  so
>> check your facts again youre also forgetting that most CIO/CTOs would
>> not answer a survey but quietly buy HP procurve and now many times my
>> biggest Fortune 1000 Clients are getting Free Dell Switches with their
>> server purchases as a sweetner  Next up  lets talk about the hundreds of
>> Fortune 2000s (I have several clients in this group also) that ONLY
>> purchase Cisco from Network Hardware Resellers, Myriad Supply, Ebay, etc.*
>> ***
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> In fact the ONLY thing my customers seem to buy from Cisco is Smartnet on
>> old Cisco gear (cause ASAs and 3750s from 2008 still work) and Call
>> Manager Licensing. We even got a Nexus 7010 from a reseller recently  so
>> trust me its a tight time for Cisco  as people like google and facebook
>> give away free IT CIOs and CTOs think this means ALL IT should cost
>> less.****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> Sorry man. Fact of life****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> *From:* Jonathan Greenwood II [mailto:gwood83_at_gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 9:54 PM
>> *To:* Radioactive Frog
>> *Cc:* Joseph L. Brunner; JB Poplawski; jazzsunn_at_gmail.com; Travis
>> Niedens; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> *Subject:* Re: CCO Downloads.****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> I doubt it with their weak polycom handsets and no support for
>> acd/contactcenters.  Not to mention the hardware required for the
>> infrastructure is a bit ridiculous and honestly a turnoff.  They have years
>> to go before they even create a reasonable footprint to measure for market
>> share.****
>> 
>> I keep hearing all of this Cisco market share eroding and the question I
>> have is to who???  HP 9% Juniper 2% Brocade 3% anybody else less than 1%.
>> ****
>> 
>> I applaud Cisco for protecting their brand and not allowing it free for
>> all, because it makes the training/certification much more valuable.  All
>> the other vendors have the same approach, so what's the big deal???****
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2012 6:11 PM, "Radioactive Frog" <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com> wrote:**
>> **
>> 
>> Watch out the Microsoft Lync in the next few years. It will wipe out
>> Cisco,s UC market.
>> 
>> Lync now supports multitenancy, goes to Service providers Domain.
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, February 24, 2012, Travis Niedens wrote:
>> 
>> > Way too much land. I was in buildings J/K when they were supposed to
>> build
>> > more before the layoff in 2001.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> <javascript:;>]
>> > On Behalf Of
>> > Joseph L. Brunner
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:05 PM
>> > To: JB Poplawski; jazzsunn_at_gmail.com <javascript:;>
>> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;>
>> > Subject: RE: CCO Downloads.
>> >
>> > Yes - I also have a sick smartnet with many asa's, 3800's, 6509's, etc
>> but
>> > I
>> > was not able to download software for the 2651XM!
>> >
>> > HAHAH
>> >
>> > I guess Cisco has 2 choices
>> >
>> > 1. Sell all that land they acquired under John Morgidge in San Jose 2.
>> Lock
>> > down CCO in hopes people would buy more Smartnet contracts...
>> >
>> > Guess that's all you can do when your eroding market share year after
>> year
>> > in the Enterprise Switch, Core Router and Firewall Market, huh?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> <javascript:;>]
>> > On Behalf Of JB
>> > Poplawski
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:06 PM
>> > To: jazzsunn_at_gmail.com <javascript:;>
>> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;>
>> > Subject: Re: CCO Downloads.
>> >
>> > I have 2600's in a lab, end of life routers.  GNS3?  What gives?  I can
>> > download 65XX, 3750X, 28,29, 18XX.
>> >
>> > Kind of frustrating that I'm studying for a lab (Third attempt) and
>> running
>> > into issues of downloading IOS.
>> > JB
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:04 PM, <jazzsunn_at_gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > It must have finally caught up to you, but Cisco requires that you
>> > > have a service agreement for the device you're wanting to download
>> > software for.
>> > > Sent via BlackBerry
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: JB Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> > > Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;>
>> > > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:55:59
>> > > To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <javascript:;>>
>> > > Reply-To: JB Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> > > Subject: CCO Downloads.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone having download issues of images?  I used to be able to
>> > > download most anything, now it seems they bolted down the hatches.
>> > > Makes life hard for my 3600 lab.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone?
>> > > JB
>> > >
>> > >
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