Re: OT:RS Racks and IOU/IOU XR - Was: Passed CCIE R&S lab exam!

I heard a rumor from a reputable source that IOS XR would be visualised
and made available for use by the general public. I'm not sure if they
meant a binary to download, or a lab type setup (Cisco learning labs style).

leigh

On 26/01/12 5:57 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> That makes sense, because i have heard the same for XR, and soon (Next year
> or so, hopefully sooner) they will have the XR emulated, but i rather see
> these teams work on switches such that you can emulate a 6500 and have a
> choice as far as SUP and other line cards are concerned or even Nexus
> platforms.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
>> The IOU that is in the "wild" is IOS based but there is a new version
>> for XR (XOU?) that if I'm not mistaken just came out a few months ago
>> internally to Cisco. This is similar to the virtualized Nexus OS
>> (Titanium?) internal to Cisco. It only makes sense that Cisco follows
>> Juniper with Junosphere as it's an affordable and scalable solution.
>> Last time I talked to people internal there was discussion of accessing
>> IOU online (rack rental style) or the remote possibility of even buying
>> an IOU appliance but nothing was firm at the time. In fact you can
>> already rent IOU from Cisco in pre-packaged labs now so why not just let
>> the customer design their own lab for say proof of concept before
>> deployment, troubleshooting a network issue, CCIE practice, etc. GNS3
>> is often used today by some of the biggest Cisco resellers to test out
>> designs but IOU would be a better option of course.
>>
>> Personally I believe that Cisco realized it was a mistake to give IOU
>> out within Cisco as it quickly was leaked to the public and that hosting
>> it themselves is a better option long term.
>>
>> --
>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>
>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> http://www.INE.com
>>
>>
>> On 01/25/2012 09:39 PM, Ramanpreet Singh wrote:
>>> IOU doesn't support XR
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM, "Narbik Kocharians"<narbikk_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> Do you really believe that Cisco will provide IOU or an XR
>>> simulator soon?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com
>>> <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Cisco doesn't seem to be concerned if you know the physical
>>> topology of
>>> > the real lab. In fact if you attend the CCIE sessions at Cisco
>>> Live they
>>> > even talk about how they aren't concerned with people knowing
>>> the physical
>>> > topology. In Las Vegas at Cisco Live last year I heard first
>>> hand that
>>> > they are not concerned with vendors using the real physical
>>> topology and
>>> > even talked about publishing the physical topology. On an
>>> unrelated note
>>> > we have 25 new R&S racks being put up now ;-)
>>> >
>>> > Lastly in regards to posts on here relating to IOU and IOU XR,
>>> I've heard
>>> > "talk" that Cisco will be making it available to partners soon
>>> similar to
>>> > Junosphere Labs and Junosphere Classroom (http://goo.gl/2qzuh)
>>> and to the
>>> > general public a few months after that. This means all of the
>>> people
>>> > waiting for IOS XR access for SPv3 might find an affordable
>>> solution real
>>> > soon. Juniper's solution is only $5 per device for 24 hour
>>> access which is
>>> > affordable. So hold off before running out and buying that GSR
>>> for your
>>> > home lab ;-)
>>> >
>>> > Hope to see many of you at Cisco Live London in two weeks!
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>>> > bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
>>> >
>>> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>> > http://www.INE.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 01/18/2012 09:14 PM, Abraham, Tharak wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Imran,
>>> >>
>>> >> There is absolutely no wrong in gathering information on the
>>> lab or type
>>> >> of
>>> >> questions
>>> >>
>>> >> Then why is it that most of the vendor workbooks have the exact
>>> number of
>>> >> trunk links and interface numbering as in the real lab ?
>>> >> Even few of them have the same questions too !
>>> >> Does that mean that you are already exposed to the lab ? NO !
>>> >>
>>> >> In the end, it all boils down to one's conscience !
>>> >> If one has deserved to achieve it, it will stay with him !
>>> >>
>>> >> Congrats Nick !!
>>> >>
>>> >> Best Regards,
>>> >> Tharak Abraham Luke
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:immrccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Nick
>>> Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com<mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It wasn't my first time, it's my third.
>>> >>>> In my first and second, I got different topologies
>>> respectively. Until
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> that
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> time, I had known there were only two topologies for RS Lab
>>> exam. But
>>> >>>> 2month before my third, I got information that a new topology
>>> came out.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> It
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> was what I haven't got.
>>> >>>> Who can go to take a exam without any information about the
>>> exam? We can
>>> >>>> get some from our friends, colleagues or Internet.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But trying to get topology information before exam from
>>> internet or
>>> >>> friends
>>> >>> is similar to getting the same for dumps !
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My openion though , good honesty though
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Establishing a strategy
>>> >>>> based on our skill and information would give us high
>>> probability of
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> pass.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> And it is my strategy after having two fails.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Regards.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jay
>>> McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.**com<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'm curious how you know this was a new layout. Unless
>>> you've taken
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> lab multiple times and finally saw a version you hadn't seen
>>> before, I
>>> >>>>>> don't understand how you would recognize a new topology. Do
>>> you have
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> inside
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> information?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>> http://mycciepursuit.**wordpress.com
>>> <http://wordpress.com><http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Raheel Muhammad<
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com<mailto:raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> And how do you know this was the changed lab topology ?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Raheel
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Nick Mcleod<
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com<mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thanks folks.
>>> >>>>>>>> What I meant for new version is New config lab topology,
>>> not a
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Version
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> change. It is still CCIE R&S v4.
>>> >>>>>>>> Oh forgot to write my number!
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Regards.
>>> >>>>>>>> #33691
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Don Rajaratne
>>> >>>>>>>> <don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com>>**wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> congratulations man. Hey what do u mean by new version?
>>> Does r&a
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> got
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> updated from v4 ?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Don
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:
>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:29:57
>>> >>>>>>>>> To:<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Passed CCIE R&S lab exam!
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello all
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to thank all here. I really happy to let you
>>> know my
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> pass!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> It took almost 2 years to get this certi. Yeh,,, It's worth to
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> study
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> long :)
>>> >>>>>>>>> The lab part I received was the new version so it was
>>> hard time. I
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> asked
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> the proctor many questions I was confused about. He was so
>>> kind to
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> me.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> I want to hear other's pass, as well as want to help people
>> pass
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> their
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> exam.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>>> Nick.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
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