Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

Joe, I personally reported a testing center that was selling exams directly
from the database to people AND
the person who owned it was paying people to
take exams for others. And guess what? Cisco did NOTHING
 it is all about the
money. Cisco makes lots of money off of the certification program, recerts,
books,
training etc etc etc.
Is cheating devaluing the cert? Absolutely. You
would hope the cheaters
would be exposed in the end via job performance,
interview or whatever
but don't hold your breath. At least you can look
yourself in the mirror when you earn yours.
________________________________
 From: Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com>
To:
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 9:38 AM
Subject: CCIE
R&S Discouraged
 
All,

I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to
get your take, and to
hopefully give me some words of wisdom.

I recently took
my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed and
I'm ok with that, I
knew going into the exam that I was not 100% however I
scheduled the lab
months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them before
taking the lab. I
fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior to
taking the exam, but I
felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and get
the butterflies and overall
anxiety out of my system.

I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt
at the lab is successful,
and I'm working on those now.

So here is the part
were my discouragement comes into play and really my
overall mindset to stop
studying for this exam and move on with my life, as
we all know that studying
for the CCIE takes away your life for a while.
I've been studying for the CCIE
off and on for almost 2yrs, and there have
been a few breaks in my studies as
I have family and work obligations like
most of you all, "i digress".

I came
back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I absolutely
had no
freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and trying
to figure
out the answers to the questions and I read every page on this
particular
subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted. So I
set out in
the world of google and began using search strings to find my
answer, and what
do you know I found several scenarios from people that
were pretty close, so I
modified my search string and began my
seek-and-find again. After searching
for a few minutes more for my answer,
up pops a website URL in Chinese that
redirects me to a website that has a
document in adobe web viewer so I think
lets read this and see what I
find. I begin to read the document and see that
it is a lab and as I
scroll down I begin to see the network topology and
physical and logical
layout and the beginning general guideline requirements
and I say to myself
"wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again
say " this is
way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks
exactly like
the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook,
"they one I
drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I
say "What
the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only
that
but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS
numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again everything was
100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped... stared
at
the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly kill
myself
studying trying to get these digits when people are out there
cheating, but
not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert
community because
they feel that if they get the Digits they can make more
money than what they
deserve. So I went home, because I don't study at
home as this is distraction
most of them, and I asked myself the entire
ride home to whether or not a
should continue.

So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is
"should we even
continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment,
labbooks,
video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people
are
cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen this
over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.

I'm frustrated,
p'd off, and discouraged.

I await your thoughts and reply's.

Please do not
email me or request that I give you the website or name of
the company that is
supplying the exact labs, as I will make you publicly
known for asking in this
email group and forums. Really it's not worth it.

Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)
Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
Received on Sun Dec 04 2011 - 02:17:28 ART