Re: CCIE

Ladies and Gentleman,
This is why you get your CCIE!!! 140K/year can do a lot of things!

John,
Take a chance, you only live once! I would interview, get a formal
offer and take it your old company. I've been here for X amount of
years, I would love to stay, but how can you compete with this offer.
It's worth a shot! Definitely don't play that card unless you're
prepared to take the other position. You're using the new company's
offer, but it boils down to putting up or shutting up.

Good convo and best of luck to you!
JB

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the new position in the same area? Work from home is great, but if I
> could stay in the same area I was in, have great medical benefits and get
> 50k more to do similar work, that is a no brainer for me. Now, that is just
> me -- You need to weigh your options. Is working from home worth $50k a
> year to you? What about work environment, hours, expectations, stress,
> etc? Would the new job require you to put in way more hours and time, and
> thus have less time for your personal goals (study, hobbies, family, etc)?
> How much is that worth to you?
>
> Good luck!
>
> P.S. I am not in the DC metro area but my opinion is that you are being low
> balled significantly.
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM, John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your inputs.
>>
>> To make things more clear I am currently getting 80K base + 10k Bonus. 70%
>> of time I work from home and have stock options, medical benefit. Right now
>> I am based in DC metro area. Offer what I am getting from consulting company
>> is around 140K + health benefit.
>> I am thinking 90k in DC metro Area for CCIE is low, that is a reason I am
>> thinking of changing. But due to other benefits with my present company, I
>> am not able to make up my mind. That's the reason wanted to get inputs from
>> experience of other folks how to go with it and what should I look for in
>> long terms.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> John.
>>
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>> *From:* Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>> *To:* John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com>
>> *Cc:* "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2011 11:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: CCIE
>>
>> It's all about balance man. Money is not everything, but it is important :
>> ) With that being said, you have to weigh the entire package. How much is
>> working for a great company worth to you? 50 - 60% of what you make? I
>> would advise you look at the big picture to help you make a clear decision.
>> Write stuff down. I was in a job hunt not too long ago myself. My decision
>> on where to go was based on some of these things:
>>
>> - Base salary
>> - Bonus potential
>> - Medical / Health benefit package
>> - Location
>> - Stress Level of the job as compared to others (hours I would be working,
>> how much the job challenged me, etc)
>> - Family
>>
>> All these things factor in. Now, 50-60% pay increase is going to be real
>> tough for me to turn down personally. From experience, I think you are
>> kidding yourself if you think your current company is going to eventually
>> increase your pay by 50-60%. Maybe by the time you retire : ) Companies
>> that hire you in at a "low" wage will keep you there for eternity. When I
>> went from CCNA to CCNP all the sudden the company wanted me to stop doing
>> cable drop runs and start configuring core and distribution layer devices
>> and work on complex topology designs, but guess what? They didn't want to
>> pay for that. Why? They hired a CCNA for a low price. Just because I got a
>> CCNP didn't mean they were hiking my salary any more than the crappy 3% a
>> year for living expenses. So, I moved on at the time. These are things you
>> have to think about.
>>
>> In summary, you need to look at the entire package and find out what is
>> most important for you and what is best for you and your family.
>> Additionally, I don't think any company is going to bump you that much in a
>> short period of time.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:56 AM, John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I am confused about job change and want to know from the experience of
>> other folks who might have been through similar situation. I am a CCIE
>> certified engineer working at Consulting engineer with the topmost(No prize
>> for guessing) network company from last 5 years (having total 8 years
>> experience). I came to US about a year back through intra-company transfer.
>> Now my issues is that present company though is one of the best company to
>> work for in networking industry but they are not paying me at level what
>> experienced CCIE should be paid at(though a one of top most performer). Now
>> I have few opportunities with some consulting companies in US who are ready
>> to pay me 50-60% hike but these companies though good in consulting but not
>> at that level my present company is.
>>
>> So my dilemma is that I am not able to decide if I should go for hike and
>> leave my present company or instead of Salary I should remain with reputed
>> company and wait for at-least 3-5 years more to reach this salary level
>> being offered to me right now. So basically want comparison between salary
>> level and company reputation.
>>
>>
>> Also what should be average good salary in US for CCIE with 8 years
>> experience, so that I can decide that if I am right now paid too low ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your inputs to help me clear my dilemma.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
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>
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