Re: NARBIKšS BOOTCAMP - A GREAT PERSONAL INVESTMENT

I agree 100 percent. The 007 or Ninja solutions are combination of basic
configs that utilizes the behavior of a given feature or protocol. So if the
basic level is where the problem is, the Ninja stuff remain to be for
Ninjas.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Ya know what Scott, your are bringing up a a "Sad but True" point that goes
> completely undetected.
>
> I was teaching Prefix-lists to some students that were all "CCIE
> candidates", and they ALL had no idea how to subnet quickly. A student
> should have a strong understanding of subnetting to master prefix-lists. It
> was weird. Narbik was just as shocked as I was.
>
> It seems that people are now trying to prepare for the Advanced topics
> without having a thorough understanding of the basics. This leads to over
> preparing for the lab with lots and lots of holes, which often leads to
> failure.
>
> This did not happen in the past mostly because we had to set up the lab
> from
> scratch and you had to have a little bit of design skill. This is not true
> in the newer format.
>
> I totally agree with Scott when he says that people think that 007 is
> needed
> to pass when you actually NEED to use the right tool for the right job.
> That
> is difficult enough without adding more pressure.
>
> I believe this is where Narbik shines. My favorite line he says in class
> above his "Grandma" is:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> student: Will that subject be on the exam? (like he would tell you, even
> if he knew).
>
> Narbik: I hope so, I just taught you everything there is to know about it?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> He honestly does not know and does not care if it will be on the exam. He
> simply helps to make you smarter so you can think your way through.
>
> The rest is up to you.
>
> Paul
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>
>
>
> > From: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
> > Organization: Emanon.com, Inc.
> > Reply-To: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:51:17 -0400
> > To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: NARBIK9S BOOTCAMP - A GREAT PERSONAL INVESTMENT (NARBIK-
> MOBILE
> > IOS)
> >
> > Very little actually is. Keep in mind that many things we don't
> > understand SEEM like 007 stuff, but generally are not.
> >
> > Every complicated task can be broken down into a series of simple
> > steps. It's just a matter of being able to see that!
> >
> > Too many people fly through the basics in order to get to the 007 stuff,
> > and if they manage to come across some exact match to what they have
> > seen then they're good (although that raises NDA questions), but if
> > there are differences, often candidates are completely lost because it
> > wasn't the "same". Having a solid understanding of those simple steps
> > will make the complex details almost irrelevant.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
> >
> > swm_at_emanon.com
> >
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/11 12:34 PM, Piotr Malarski wrote:
> >> Really? I thought the real exam is exactly about 007 stuff. Am I
> >> missing something ?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Michael Kiefer <mjkiefer_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Yep. You don't need to make your re-distribution flush the upstairs
> toilet 5
> >>> seconds after the downstairs one flushes. Don't worry about the 007
> stuff!
> >>
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