Re: Is CCIE loosing its value?

Marc Edwards,

Perfectly stated. Good job.

We all study day and night and then when we realize that the task in hand is
a little tough, we start saying things like this. Think about what i am
saying here:

In bad economy educated people do not suffer AS MUCH, Certified people DO
NOT SUFFER AS MUCH. If some of you guys have been doing this for 15 - 20
years, i have done this for the past 34 years, and i have seen the ups and
downs of this industry, THE DEMAND FOR CCIEs HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER. I am
saying this by looking at places like: US, Sydney, Poland, UK, ASIA, and
MID-EAST.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:

> >The last interview I was at (thankfully got the job), they weren't
> concerned about hiring my certification but instead about hiring a competent
> professional.
>
> If they had the CCIE they would be out making money and not wasting time
> interviewing people... until they pass they are not competent themselves to
> judge anyone.
>
> "If No one among us is capable of governing themselves, then WHO among us
> has the capacity to govern someone else"
>
> >I hope to have my digits soon as a reflection of my hard work.
>
> I "hope" to climb K2 in 8 hours without oxygen. Hope and bus ticket will
> get you on the greyhound. Earn it. Stop wasting time here stirring up
> useless discussions with people that have already passed.
>
> Just my advise...
>
> -Joe
> #19366
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> marc edwards
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 4:19 PM
> To: Paul Negron
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; -Hammer-
> Subject: Re: Is CCIE loosing its value?
>
> My last two cents on this... I really like using the post for relavancy to
> the test and not if the certification itself is relavant. The last
> interview
> I was at (thankfully got the job), they weren't concerned about hiring my
> certification but instead about hiring a competant professional. I am
> thankful like many on this post that my phone/email/social networks are
> constantly pinging me about oppertunities. This comes with only having what
> was previously explained as a 'watered down' CCNP. The reality is that the
> CCNP was enough to get me in front of an interviewer, I had to close the
> deal.
>
> I have the utmost respect for CCIEs and all contributors to this post, it
> has helped move me from the ordinary to extrodinary. I hope to have my
> digits soon as a reflection of my hard work. That said I look forward to
> seeing some more great posts that follow the 4.0 lab blue print.
>
> Marc Edwards
> http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com
> http://reno-ccie.blogspot.com
>
> On Jul 29, 2011 11:29 AM, "Paul Negron" <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > That individual is entitled to there opinion HAMMER.
> >
> > The facts are the facts.
> > My bank account says something different from what CCIE-STORM is saying.
> > THAT IS THE REALITY....not an opinion!!!! :-)
> >
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Negron
> > CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
> > Senior Technical Instructor
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:55:14 -0500
> >> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Is CCIE loosing its value?
> >>
> >> Then why are you subscribing to this list? Take your negative attitude
> >> and unsubscribe.
> >>
> >> -Hammer-
> >>
> >> "I was a normal American nerd"
> >> -Jack Herer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07/29/2011 10:55 AM, CCIE-STORM wrote:
> >>> YES CCIE HAS LOST THE VALUE
> >>>
> >>> IT LOOKS LIKE CCNP THESE DAYS , OR CISCO WANTS TO DEGRADE IT TAKE CCDE
> >>> MARKET UP
> >>>
> >>> IT S ALL ABOUT MONEY GAME BY CISCO ...
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Abiola Jewoola<biola_y2k_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> I i have observer that the demand for CCIE's is dwindling by the day.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am of the opinion that the CCIE certificate is not as a valuable and
> >>>> prestigious as it was like some five years ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> This may be due to the fact that Cisco is facing stiff competition
> from
> >>>> other companies out there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, with the advent of virtualisation where you can have virtual
> >>>> switches,firewalls and routers most people don't even think they need
> to buy
> >>>> the Cisco boxes anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> So am asking is the CCIE certificate still worth all the effort and
> the
> >>>> sleepless nights??
> >>>>
> >>>> Your thought pls!!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
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