Re: CCIE R&S Decline

Also remember that more CCIEs are going for multiple tracks, whereas, in the
old days more people were focused on a single track.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> This may sound like a surprise but from what i hear and see there is a
> shortage of CCIEs around the world. It all depends who you talk to, if they
> are doing well, they will tell you "*yeh CCIE classes are going well,
> consulting is doing unbelievable and etc etc etc .......*" But if you talk
> to a person that is not doing as well, you will hear a lot of sad
> music/story about the economy.
>
> Michael,
> One of the major reasons for rack rental or price reduction is the fact
> that there are more companies offering CCIE classes, and when it comes to
> boot camps, they are offering a much better and more comprehensive program
> than *some* of the old ones used to offer.
>
> When it comes to rack rentals, i think we have the BEST pricing, but it's
> on a monthly basis, some of the other ones have a fantastic deal on an 8
> hour intervals, so you see you have lots of choices. In the old days there
> were ONLY few vendors that offered Boot Camps, nowadays you have more
> choices.
>
> I travel all over the world, and no matter where i go, CCIEs are in high
> and i mean HIGH demand. When the economy goes down, CERTS like CCIE becomes
> a MUST, the more CERTs (That you can backup the knowledge) you have the
> easier it is to get a consulting gig or a permanent position.
>
> I do not see any issues as far as Training and consulting is concerned when
> it comes to CCIE Cert.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Michael Kiefer <mjkiefer_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I can tell you that I've been studying for the IE for quite some time now.
>> I
>> started in 2008. I played around for a few years and got serious in the
>> last
>> 18 months.
>>
>> It seems like rack rentals were a pain to get when I first started
>> studying.
>> Now I can get them anytime with little to no notice.
>>
>> Vendors are damn near giving stuff away. It wasn't that way in 2008.
>>
>> The recession has taken a huge toll on the economy.
>>
>> Cisco isn't going off a cliff. They are a big company and they just aren't
>> as nimble as some of the competition.
>>
>> The one thing I can't figure out about Mr. Reese is if he hates Cisco so
>> much, why sell their gear!
>>
>> Oh yeah..... It's probably 90% of his business.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon_at_gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Dear All
>> >
>> > I came across this interesting link, I was wondering how or why the
>> CCIE
>> > RnS count could go down by almost 1k in less than a year? The actual
>> figure
>> > might be even higher than 2k (if you look at the nice math at the end of
>> > that link <wink> )
>> >
>> > Was the recession so tough that people could not afford for the written
>> > exam
>> > fees and few hours of study to renew their cert?
>> >
>> > http://bradreese.com/blog/5-24-2011.htm
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Farrukh
>> >
>> > P.S. I have confirmed those stats myself from one CCIE Live/Networkers
>> > presentation (have a live pass)
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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