Re: CCIE R&S Decline

...or retire, move on to something other than network break/fix or
implementation/delivery, leave Cisco, etc. Not to mention that the exams
were just changed recently, which always slows the pass and recert rate.
Cisco came up with the CCDE partly because lots of internal people were
finding it difficult to pass the CCIE written for recert. Their roles had
changed, and they were no longer keeping up with bits and bytes, commands,
etc.

Two years ago everyone was freaking out when people were passing every day,
saying that there were too many IEs and that it was losing its value. Then
we had OEQ, and then t/s was added. Sure, the pass rate dropped
dramatically, just like it does when the content changes. When was MPLS
added?

What does the demand look like now? How many people do we still have here
on gs that are pursuing the cert? Do the great trainers that help out here
still have jobs? How many people are a Live? 14000! How many of them are
pursuing the CCIE and are signed up for the Techtorial, or whatever they're
calling that now? Are lab seats still getting filled? Now you have more
options for where to take it...

The fact is that CCIEs are still in demand. I changed jobs twice during
this great recession, and both were career advancements. The cert is still
widely respected, and I actually applaud Cisco for taking the necessary
steps to protect yet improve the cert. Don't be alarmed by blog posts that
don't state all of the facts or blatantly try to smear Cisco...

Ronnie
On Jul 11, 2011 7:58 AM, "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> And you know, people sometimes die...
>
> On 11 July 2011 11:47, Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>> No the need is down so the demand is down...
>>
>> How many people are building new big expensive networks in a depression?
>>
>> How many US banks are just "keeping what they have running"?
>>
>> How many new global players that are building new networks are using
Juniper?
>>
>> Look around these days - its mostly professional services firms hiring
CCIE's - and who wants to work for them LOL
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Farrukh Haroon
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:21 AM
>> To: Cisco certification
>> Subject: CCIE R&S Decline
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> I came across this interesting link, I was wondering how or why the CCIE
>> RnS count could go down by almost 1k in less than a year? The actual
figure
>> might be even higher than 2k (if you look at the nice math at the end of
>> that link <wink> )
>>
>> Was the recession so tough that people could not afford for the written
exam
>> fees and few hours of study to renew their cert?
>>
>> http://bradreese.com/blog/5-24-2011.htm
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Farrukh
>>
>> P.S. I have confirmed those stats myself from one CCIE Live/Networkers
>> presentation (have a live pass)
>>
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