Re: MacBook pro - OT

Shoot I cash my check at the taco stand

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> wrote:

> 11 here..so dont feel so bad..
>
>
> On 6/28/11 4:14 PM, "Marko Milivojevic" <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to talk to Wayne. I'm so underpaid. $10 an *hour*? WHOA!
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 13:44, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
> >> You get THAT much? B Damn, must be because you live in California. B B
> ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/28/11 10:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> >>> Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones
> that
> >>> have multiple certs and teach from time to time.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> >>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each
> HOUR I
> >>>> work.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, what is your time worth?
> >>>>
> >>>> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding
> dependencies,
> >>>> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
> >>>> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can
> do all
> >>>> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
> >>>> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you
> would
> >>>> be off doing that
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>>> ocsic_at_web.de
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
> >>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>>
> >>>> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also
> time
> >>>> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a
> argument,
> >>>> is
> >>>> it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> >>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
> >>>> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
> >>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>>
> >>>>> Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is
> not
> >>>> free
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>>> ocsic_at_web.de
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
> >>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years
> (private)
> >>>> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for
> >>>> free.
> >>>>> For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of
> standby.
> >>>> I don't miss any programm.
> >>>>> At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
> >>>> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want
> to
> >>>> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
> >>>> customers to track their gsm data.
> >>>>> Just my two cents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>>> Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
> >>>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
> >>>>> An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very
> valuable
> >>>> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at
> this
> >>>> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for
> years
> >>>> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like
> staying
> >>>> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you
> familiarize
> >>>> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
> >>>>>> I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic
> enterprise
> >>>> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then
> in
> >>>> my
> >>>> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
> >>>>>> My story:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first
> day on
> >>>> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic
> orientation &
> >>>> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
> >>>> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine
> I was
> >>>> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your
> manager
> >>>> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your
> desk
> >>>> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like
> learning the
> >>>> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time.
> I was
> >>>> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got
> the
> >>>> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a
> year
> >>>> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
> >>>> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7
> >>>> laptop.
> >>>> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
> >>>> others requiring explor!
> >>>>>> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
> >>>> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my
> labs
> >>>> on
> >>>> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
> >>>>>> If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can
> curse
> >>>> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a
> MAC.
> >>>> You wouldn't regret it. :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
> >>>>>> :: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
> >>>>>>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
> >>>>>>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
> >>>>>>> =)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
> >>>> Active
> >>>>>>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration
> they
> >>>>>>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything
> more
> >>>>>>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a
> large
> >>>>>>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
> >>>> Apple
> >>>>>>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
> >>>> base a
> >>>>>>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just
> a
> >>>> toy
> >>>>>>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
> >>>>>>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
> >>>>>>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Thomas
> >>>>>>>>
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