Re: MacBook pro - OT

11 here..so dont feel so bad..

On 6/28/11 4:14 PM, "Marko Milivojevic" <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:

> I need to talk to Wayne. I'm so underpaid. $10 an *hour*? WHOA!
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 13:44, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>> You get THAT much? B Damn, must be because you live in California. B B ;)
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/11 10:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>> Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones that
>>> have multiple certs and teach from time to time.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
>>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR I
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> So, what is your time worth?
>>>>
>>>> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding dependencies,
>>>> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
>>>> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do all
>>>> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
>>>>
>>>> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
>>>> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you would
>>>> be off doing that
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> ocsic_at_web.de
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>
>>>> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also time
>>>> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a argument,
>>>> is
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
>>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
>>>> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>
>>>>> Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not
>>>> free
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> ocsic_at_web.de
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
>>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>>
>>>>> I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years (private)
>>>> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for
>>>> free.
>>>>> For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of standby.
>>>> I don't miss any programm.
>>>>> At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
>>>> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to
>>>> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
>>>> customers to track their gsm data.
>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
>>>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
>>>>> An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>>
>>>>>> Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable
>>>> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this
>>>> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years
>>>> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like staying
>>>> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you familiarize
>>>> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
>>>>>> I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise
>>>> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then in
>>>> my
>>>> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
>>>>>> My story:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day on
>>>> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic orientation &
>>>> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
>>>> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I was
>>>> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your manager
>>>> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk
>>>> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning the
>>>> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I was
>>>> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got the
>>>> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a year
>>>> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
>>>> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7
>>>> laptop.
>>>> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
>>>> others requiring explor!
>>>>>> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
>>>> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my labs
>>>> on
>>>> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
>>>>>> If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse
>>>> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a MAC.
>>>> You wouldn't regret it. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
>>>>>> :: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
>>>>>>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
>>>>>>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
>>>>>>> =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
>>>> Active
>>>>>>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration they
>>>>>>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything more
>>>>>>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
>>>>>>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
>>>> Apple
>>>>>>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
>>>> base a
>>>>>>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a
>>>> toy
>>>>>>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
>>>>>>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
>>>>>>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Thomas
>>>>>>>>
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