Re: MacBook pro - OT

I need to talk to Wayne. I'm so underpaid. $10 an *hour*? WHOA!

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 13:44, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
> You get THAT much? B Damn, must be because you live in California. B B ;)
>
>
> On 6/28/11 10:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones that
>> have multiple certs and teach from time to time.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR I
>>> work.
>>>
>>> So, what is your time worth?
>>>
>>> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding dependencies,
>>> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
>>> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do all
>>> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
>>>
>>> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
>>> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you would
>>> be off doing that
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> ocsic_at_web.de
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>
>>> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also time
>>> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a argument, is
>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
>>> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
>>>
>>>> Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not
>>> free
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> ocsic_at_web.de
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>
>>>> I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years (private)
>>> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for free.
>>>> For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of standby.
>>> I don't miss any programm.
>>>> At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
>>> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to
>>> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
>>> customers to track their gsm data.
>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
>>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
>>>> An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>>
>>>>> Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable
>>> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this
>>> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years
>>> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like staying
>>> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you familiarize
>>> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
>>>>> I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise
>>> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then in my
>>> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
>>>>> My story:
>>>>>
>>>>> I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day on
>>> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic orientation &
>>> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
>>> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I was
>>> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your manager
>>> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk
>>> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning the
>>> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I was
>>> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got the
>>> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a year
>>> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
>>> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7 laptop.
>>> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
>>> others requiring explor!
>>>>> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
>>> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my labs on
>>> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
>>>>> If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse
>>> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a MAC.
>>> You wouldn't regret it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
>>>>> :: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
>>>>>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
>>>>>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
>>>>>> =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
>>> Active
>>>>>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration they
>>>>>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything more
>>>>>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
>>>>>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
>>> Apple
>>>>>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
>>> base a
>>>>>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a
>>> toy
>>>>>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
>>>>>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
>>>>>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Thomas
>>>>>>>
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