Re: MacBook pro - OT

You get THAT much? Damn, must be because you live in California. ;)

On 6/28/11 10:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones that
> have multiple certs and teach from time to time.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>
>> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR I
>> work.
>>
>> So, what is your time worth?
>>
>> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding dependencies,
>> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
>> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do all
>> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
>>
>> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
>> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you would
>> be off doing that
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> ocsic_at_web.de
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>
>> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also time
>> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a argument, is
>> it?
>>
>>
>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
>> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
>>
>>> Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not
>> free
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> ocsic_at_web.de
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>
>>> I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
>>>
>>> I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years (private)
>> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for free.
>>> For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of standby.
>> I don't miss any programm.
>>> At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
>> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to
>> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
>> customers to track their gsm data.
>>> Just my two cents.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
>>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
>>> An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>>> Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>>>
>>>> Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable
>> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this
>> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years
>> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like staying
>> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you familiarize
>> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
>>>> I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise
>> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then in my
>> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
>>>> My story:
>>>>
>>>> I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day on
>> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic orientation &
>> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
>> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I was
>> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your manager
>> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk
>> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning the
>> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I was
>> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got the
>> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a year
>> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
>> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7 laptop.
>> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
>> others requiring explor!
>>>> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
>> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my labs on
>> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
>>>> If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse
>> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a MAC.
>> You wouldn't regret it. :)
>>>>
>>>> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
>>>> :: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
>>>>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
>>>>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
>>>>> =)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
>> Active
>>>>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration they
>>>>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything more
>>>>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
>>>>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
>> Apple
>>>>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
>> base a
>>>>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a
>> toy
>>>>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
>>>>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
>>>>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Thomas
>>>>>>
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