Re: MacBook pro - OT

hahaha YES, the cost of living.......

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> You get THAT much? Damn, must be because you live in California. ;)
>
>
> On 6/28/11 10:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> > Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones
> that
> > have multiple certs and teach from time to time.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> > <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR
> I
> >> work.
> >>
> >> So, what is your time worth?
> >>
> >> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding dependencies,
> >> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
> >> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do
> all
> >> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
> >>
> >> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
> >> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you
> would
> >> be off doing that
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> ocsic_at_web.de
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>
> >> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also
> time
> >> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a
> argument, is
> >> it?
> >>
> >>
> >> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> >> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
> >> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
> >> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
> >>
> >>> Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not
> >> free
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> ocsic_at_web.de
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
> >>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>
> >>> I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years
> (private)
> >> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for
> free.
> >>> For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of
> standby.
> >> I don't miss any programm.
> >>> At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
> >> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to
> >> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
> >> customers to track their gsm data.
> >>> Just my two cents.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
> >>> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
> >>> An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >>> Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >>>
> >>>> Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable
> >> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this
> >> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years
> >> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like
> staying
> >> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you
> familiarize
> >> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
> >>>> I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise
> >> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then
> in my
> >> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
> >>>> My story:
> >>>>
> >>>> I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day
> on
> >> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic
> orientation &
> >> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
> >> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I
> was
> >> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your
> manager
> >> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk
> >> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning
> the
> >> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I
> was
> >> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got
> the
> >> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a
> year
> >> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
> >> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7
> laptop.
> >> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
> >> others requiring explor!
> >>>> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
> >> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my
> labs on
> >> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
> >>>> If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse
> >> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a
> MAC.
> >> You wouldn't regret it. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
> >>>> :: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
> >>>>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
> >>>>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
> >>>>> =)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
> >> Active
> >>>>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration
> they
> >>>>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything
> more
> >>>>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
> >>>>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
> >> Apple
> >>>>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
> >> base a
> >>>>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a
> >> toy
> >>>>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
> >>>>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
> >>>>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Thomas
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