Re: MacBook pro - OT

So good to know Cisco has this way of doing their business, letting the end
users choose what station they will use.. at a lot of companies they are
very strict about that.. specially the IT department with that talk "this is
not our standard..."

at my company the IT let the end-user choose between a blackberry / iphone,
I found that amazing.. but we didnt reach a level yet of choosing the
desktop (between Win OS / MACS).. maybe someday? :)

2011/6/27 Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com>

> at cisco the lenovo's we lease are leased at 1699...teh mac 15" Macbook
> Pro's are 1899..not much of a difference..The last T61 lenovo I had needed
> fixed 4 times a yr..The mac I have has needed no service thus far after a
> yr
> of service..
>
> 6 team members out of 8 have opted for macs so far on new leases..we all
> either run paralells or vmware for win7 to run visio..it works fine..Also
> it seems most of the PM's in cisco have opted for a Mac also..
>
> it just works better..with no issues..
>
>
> On 6/27/11 11:16 AM, "marc edwards" <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this
> > string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to
> > work within a MAC.
> >
> > Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and
> > affordable versus the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini
> > at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought
> > for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am
> > typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized
> > cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the
> > device.
> >
> > If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it
> > and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its
> > hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend,
> > it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a
> > MAC!
> >
> > Marc Edwards
> > http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com
> > http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> John,
> >>
> >> I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic
> >> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Helllo Team,
> >>>
> >>> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500
> companies, I
> >>> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs.
> >>> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a MAC,
> from
> >>> a
> >>> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be more
> >>> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to keep
> >>> standard from support point of view.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG for
> >>>> more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any
> >>>> dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must, yet I
> >>>> doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from
> >>>> Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >>>>
> >>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> >>>>
> >>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <
> carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the
> >>> results
> >>>> but
> >>>>> what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that you
> >>> had
> >>>> to
> >>>>> go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle and
> >>> Visio.
> >>>>> Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't aB
> >>>> necessity!!!
> >>>>> I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video rendering
> >>>> wasn't up
> >>>>> to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both
> >>>> worlds...
> >>>>> I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved but
> I'm
> >>>>> happy with my setup.
> >>>>> -Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> >>> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love Macs). My
> >>>>>> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and SSD.
> >>>>>> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace them
> >>>>>> with Windows machines.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware.
> OmniGraffle
> >>>>>> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <
> jefersonf_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I didnt
> >>>> expect
> >>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>> many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind along
> >>> with
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>> few
> >>>>>>> other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really interested
> on
> >>>>>>> getting
> >>>>>>> the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really worth
> >>> it
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> put
> >>>>>>> on that extra money.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my CD
> >>> drive
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> that HD.. I might do that.. :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really soon
> >>> and
> >>>> im
> >>>>>>> getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5..
> >>> whatever!!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia
> >>>>>>> CCIE #28157
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while since I
> >>> sat
> >>>>>>>> across
> >>>>>>>> of you ;)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I can do
> >>>>>>>> anything
> >>>>>>>> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook
> >>> Pro.
> >>>>>>>> VMware
> >>>>>>>> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly for
> >>> Visio
> >>>> as
> >>>>>>>> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of need to
> >>>> share
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for just 1
> >>> app.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Rick Mur
> >>>>>>>> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B Even with
> >>>>>>>>> full
> >>>>>>>>> disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds and
> >>> ready
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to be run
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>>> may be
> >>>>>>>>> 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But just
> >>> as
> >>>>>>>>> easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing fast
> >>>>>>>>> (faster
> >>>>>>>>> on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I rely on
> >>>>>>>>> Windoze
> >>>>>>>>> for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web site
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>>> requires Internet Exploder.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still quite
> >>>>>>>>> light.
> >>>>>>>>> But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15" Aire
> >>> should
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> just as good in most instances.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD and
> >>>> swears
> >>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> does everything he needs!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> >>>>>>>>> #4713,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Power corrupts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and advices.. Im
> >>>>>>>>>> definetly
> >>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>> for a mac.. :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD for
> >>>> getting
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think I`ll
> >>> get
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> 15inch
> >>>>>>>>>> i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit expensive
> >>>> but
> >>>>>>>> such
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> nice machine..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found it gave
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> best
> >>>>>>>>>>> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy to
> >>> carry
> >>>>>>>> around.
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and style!! I
> >>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>> Time
> >>>>>>>>>>> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that I use
> >>>>>>>>>>> iTerm
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did run into
> >>>>>>>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years ago...
> >>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> paid
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>> I would never go back now that I went Mac!!
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Carl
> >>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ==============================
> >>>>>>>>>>> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
> >>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no anti-glare
> >>>> screen
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they say
> >>>>>>>> Parallelsis
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on your
> >>> lap
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they are running. :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio diags
> >>>> etc)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> lots of routing voice etc..
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work and
> >>>> fun..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I don't want
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anything
> >>>>>>>>>>> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of getting
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> 17
> >>>>>>>>> inch..
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks and
> >>>> stuff??
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> B ............................
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia
> >>>>>>>>>>>> CCIE #28157
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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