Re: MacBook pro - OT

Marc,

No arguments there, my older brother has few MAC stores in Sydney and we all
use MACs and i love it, because the thing works.
I mentioned the price, because some companies look at the initial cost and
support, but i believe in a very near future MACs will take over.

I run Win7 with Parallel and i do not have any problems.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:16 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this
> string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to
> work within a MAC.
>
> Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and
> affordable versus the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini
> at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought
> for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am
> typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized
> cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the
> device.
>
> If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it
> and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its
> hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend,
> it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a
> MAC!
>
> Marc Edwards
> http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com
> http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic <
> john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Helllo Team,
> >>
> >> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500 companies,
> I
> >> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs.
> >> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a MAC,
> from
> >> a
> >> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be more
> >> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to keep
> >> standard from support point of view.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG for
> >> > more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any
> >> > dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must, yet I
> >> > doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from
> >> > Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> >
> >> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> >> >
> >> > Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <
> carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the
> >> results
> >> > but
> >> > > what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that you
> >> had
> >> > to
> >> > > go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle and
> >> Visio.
> >> > > Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't aB
> >> > necessity!!!
> >> > > I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video rendering
> >> > wasn't up
> >> > > to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both
> >> > worlds...
> >> > > I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved but
> I'm
> >> > > happy with my setup.
> >> > > -Carl
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> >> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love Macs).
> My
> >> > >> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and SSD.
> >> > >> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace them
> >> > >> with Windows machines.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware.
> OmniGraffle
> >> > >> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> > >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> > >>
> >> > >> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> > >> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <
> jefersonf_at_gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I didnt
> >> > expect
> >> > >> > so
> >> > >> > many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind along
> >> with
> >> > a
> >> > >> > few
> >> > >> > other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really interested
> on
> >> > >> > getting
> >> > >> > the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really
> worth
> >> it
> >> > to
> >> > >> > put
> >> > >> > on that extra money.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my CD
> >> drive
> >> > >> > for
> >> > >> > that HD.. I might do that.. :-)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really soon
> >> and
> >> > im
> >> > >> > getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5..
> >> whatever!!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > Jeferson Guardia
> >> > >> > CCIE #28157
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while since I
> >> sat
> >> > >> >> across
> >> > >> >> of you ;)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I can
> do
> >> > >> >> anything
> >> > >> >> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook
> >> Pro.
> >> > >> >> VMware
> >> > >> >> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly for
> >> Visio
> >> > as
> >> > >> >> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of need
> to
> >> > share
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for just 1
> >> app.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Regards,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Rick Mur
> >> > >> >> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B Even
> with
> >> > >> >> > full
> >> > >> >> > disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds and
> >> ready
> >> > to
> >> > >> >> > rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to be
> run
> >> it
> >> > >> >> > may be
> >> > >> >> > 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!)
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But
> just
> >> as
> >> > >> >> > easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing fast
> >> > >> >> > (faster
> >> > >> >> > on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!).
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I rely on
> >> > >> >> > Windoze
> >> > >> >> > for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web site
> >> that
> >> > >> >> > requires Internet Exploder.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still
> quite
> >> > >> >> > light.
> >> > >> >> > But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15" Aire
> >> should
> >> > >> >> > be
> >> > >> >> > just as good in most instances.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD and
> >> > swears
> >> > >> >> > it
> >> > >> >> > does everything he needs!
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO!
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider)
> >> > >> >> > #4713,
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > swm_at_emanon.com
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Knowledge is power.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Power corrupts.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> >> > >> >> > > wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and advices.. Im
> >> > >> >> > > definetly
> >> > >> >> > going
> >> > >> >> > > for a mac.. :-)
> >> > >> >> > >
> >> > >> >> > > So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD for
> >> > getting
> >> > >> >> > > the
> >> > >> >> > > 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think
> I`ll
> >> get
> >> > a
> >> > >> >> > 15inch
> >> > >> >> > > i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit
> expensive
> >> > but
> >> > >> >> such
> >> > >> >> > a
> >> > >> >> > > nice machine..
> >> > >> >> > >
> >> > >> >> > > thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!!
> >> > >> >> > >
> >> > >> >> > > 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com>
> >> > >> >> > >
> >> > >> >> > >> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found it
> gave
> >> me
> >> > >> >> > >> the
> >> > >> >> > best
> >> > >> >> > >> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy to
> >> carry
> >> > >> >> around.
> >> > >> >> > I
> >> > >> >> > >> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and
> style!! I
> >> > >> >> > >> have a
> >> > >> >> > Time
> >> > >> >> > >> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that I
> use
> >> > >> >> > >> iTerm
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > >> >> > >> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did run
> into
> >> > >> >> > >> issues
> >> > >> >> > with
> >> > >> >> > >> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years
> ago...
> >> I
> >> > >> >> > >> paid
> >> > >> >> > for
> >> > >> >> > >> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!!
> >> > >> >> > >> I would never go back now that I went Mac!!
> >> > >> >> > >> -Carl
> >> > >> >> > >> ;-)
> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> > >> >> > >> ==============================
> >> > >> >> > >> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228
> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> > >> >> > >> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
> >> > alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> >> > >> >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> > >> >> > >>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no anti-glare
> >> > screen
> >> > >> >> > >>> for
> >> > >> >> > >>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they say
> >> > >> >> Parallelsis
> >> > >> >> > >>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on
> your
> >> lap
> >> > >> >> > >>> when
> >> > >> >> > >>> they are running. :-)
> >> > >> >> > >>>
> >> > >> >> > >>> Cheers
> >> > >> >> > >>> A.
> >> > >> >> > >>>
> >> > >> >> > >>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Hi,
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that..
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio
> diags
> >> > etc)
> >> > >> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >> >> > >> lots of routing voice etc..
> >> > >> >> > >>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work and
> >> > fun..
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I don't
> want
> >> > >> >> > >>>> anything
> >> > >> >> > >> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of
> getting
> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > >> 17
> >> > >> >> > inch..
> >> > >> >> > >> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks and
> >> > stuff??
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Regards,
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> B ............................
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Jeferson Guardia
> >> > >> >> > >>>> CCIE #28157
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> >> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >> >> > >>>>
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