RE: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

It's probably some psychological issue dealing with a need for attention; its
a vicious cycle that we have endured for years and Paul refuses to break it.

> CC: sdibias_at_gmail.com; darby.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> From: maniac.smg_at_gmail.com
> Subject: Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)
1-800-GET-NARBIK
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:32:55 +0200
> To: sameoj_at_gmail.com
>
> Was just about to say. Why does this happen everytime Darby makes a
> reappearance ?
>
> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On 30 Apr 2011, at 8:23 PM, oluwaseyi ojo <sameoj_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Darby and his controversial character,welcome back!!!!!
> >
> > On 4/30/11, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Darby I wasn't agreeing with you, I was agreeing with Ernest. I'm sure
> >> you're a good guy however bashing vendors in a public forum is just
plain
> >> wrong. I myself am a customer of one of the "expert" vendors and the
> >> materials, as well as the support that I get are second to none. Marko,
> >> Scott, Narbik, Tyson and all the others are all excellent instructors,
and
> >> we should be grateful they exist, all of them have helped me
tremondously
> in
> >> my CCIE preperation, as well as my career. However that being said I'm
> going
> >> back to my studies and disengaging from this worthless thread.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> On Apr 30, 2011 6:30 AM, "Darby Weaver" <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I totally agree with you guys - those materials that are half baked or
> >> NEVER
> >>> materialize are also uncalled for...
> >>>
> >>> Who remembers buying audio from from one company that was never
> >> finished...
> >>> even after it was discontinued...
> >>>
> >>> Who remembers buying video from the came company for labs... apparently
> >> not
> >>> profitable enough for continuation and so it too was abandoned...
> >>>
> >>> But wait!!! Only later the same sets of videos re-appear as a "NEW"
> >>> product... that can be purchased yet again!
> >>>
> >>> That's uncalled for...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dude!
> >>>
> >>> Some of these companies that do this kind of stuff really are uncalled
> for
> >>> and if everyone who gets shucked and jived speaks up about it....
> >>>
> >>> A lot less of us would ever be calling them again.
> >>>
> >>> But, hey.. that's uncalled for.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> None of them would ever call for any of the "stuff" they say or do to
be
> >>> known publicly... that would be uncalled for.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else need to more about what and why this kind of stuff is
> uncalled
> >>> for?
> >>>
> >>> Look back in the day... we took the *Expert companies at their word
since
> >>> after all they had "expert" in the work and started with "I" so I'm
sure
> >> in
> >>> the back of all of our naive minds... we were collectively thinking...
if
> >>> "I" learn from these "experts" then one day "I" would be an "expert"
> >> too...
> >>>
> >>> Follow the Master
> >>> Walk Beside the Master
> >>> Be the Master
> >>>
> >>> The problem was and still is that some of these guys... not all of
> them...
> >>> may have never actually worked on a production network at all or never
> >> were
> >>> "the guy" in the first place and so not all of their well intentioned
> labs
> >>> are wholely baked or worse... like that one guy who keeps trying to
> >>> undermine an accepted manner of performing a task.... his experiments
are
> >> on
> >>> a limited set of equipment - so while what he says may be true for 3-4
> >>> devices or even in a small rack... (which in the example of one of the
> >>> "MYTH" series is clearly mentioned on Cisco's site by the way)... he's
> >>> cluelessly happy thinking he "debunked" a myth or something...
> >>>
> >>> Others read it, respect the guy for whatever reason, and commit that to
> >>> their accepted beliefs without really checking the facts...
> >>>
> >>> Dis-Service to the community.
> >>>
> >>> I'd say stuff like that is uncalled for.... totally uncalled for...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Truthfully - If I were shopping for a class or a vendor at this
moment...
> >>> I'd shop around... that's really called for.
> >>>
> >>> Vendors who put people they never heard of or never even attended their
> >>> classes bought their products or were totally dis-satisfied with their
> >>> products and then using those people and their CCIE numbers quite
> >> FALSELY...
> >>>
> >>> I'd say that is totally uncalled for.
> >>>
> >>> Check the archives here on GS and use Google to find the slimy
"*Expert"
> >>> companies who fit the M.O....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Darby
> >>>
> >>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Agrred, totally uncalled for :/
> >>>> On Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM, "Ernest McCaleb" <emccaleb_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Uncalled for Darby...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ernest McCaleb #21508
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
> >>>> circumference
> >>>>> of darkness. --Albert Einstein
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get
> .html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even classes)
> >>>> where
> >>>>>> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
> >>>> shave,
> >>>>>> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy they
> >>>> created
> >>>>>> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in
front
> >>>> of
> >>>>>> paying students...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My advice:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately...
> >> Call
> >>>>>> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save may
> >> be
> >>>>>> your
> >>>>>> own.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to
send
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time they
> >> may
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
> >>>>>> mistakes...)...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable instructors
> >>>> have
> >>>>>> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven,
unprepared
> >>>>>> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level topics
> >> as
> >>>> a
> >>>>>> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention or
> >> even
> >>>>>> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are
> >> probably
> >>>>>> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
> >>>>>> inadequacy...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the hell
> >> you
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video, or
> >>>> worse
> >>>>>> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial
> >> difficulties"....
> >>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
> >>>> nice...
> >>>>>> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik and
> >>>> what
> >>>>>> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
> >>>>>> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to
pay
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> their addiction...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are out
> >>>>>> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know
the
> >>>>>> difference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Darby
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Darby Weaver
> >>>>>> Network Engineer
> >>>>>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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