Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

Welcome back darby....

Paul - I'll pay 5$ a month for a 'DF' (darby free) version of
Group-Study...

Just kidding
Good see you both in person last week and good job Paul on the material you
covered for narbik

> From: oluwaseyi ojo <sameoj_at_gmail.com>
> Reply-To: oluwaseyi ojo <sameoj_at_gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:23:18 +0100
> To: Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>, group-study
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)
> 1-800-GET-NARBIK
>
> Darby and his controversial character,welcome back!!!!!
>
> On 4/30/11, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Darby I wasn't agreeing with you, I was agreeing with Ernest. I'm sure
>> you're a good guy however bashing vendors in a public forum is just plain
>> wrong. I myself am a customer of one of the "expert" vendors and the
>> materials, as well as the support that I get are second to none. Marko,
>> Scott, Narbik, Tyson and all the others are all excellent instructors, and
>> we should be grateful they exist, all of them have helped me tremondously in
>> my CCIE preperation, as well as my career. However that being said I'm going
>> back to my studies and disengaging from this worthless thread.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> On Apr 30, 2011 6:30 AM, "Darby Weaver" <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I totally agree with you guys - those materials that are half baked or
>> NEVER
>>> materialize are also uncalled for...
>>>
>>> Who remembers buying audio from from one company that was never
>> finished...
>>> even after it was discontinued...
>>>
>>> Who remembers buying video from the came company for labs... apparently
>> not
>>> profitable enough for continuation and so it too was abandoned...
>>>
>>> But wait!!! Only later the same sets of videos re-appear as a "NEW"
>>> product... that can be purchased yet again!
>>>
>>> That's uncalled for...
>>>
>>>
>>> Dude!
>>>
>>> Some of these companies that do this kind of stuff really are uncalled for
>>> and if everyone who gets shucked and jived speaks up about it....
>>>
>>> A lot less of us would ever be calling them again.
>>>
>>> But, hey.. that's uncalled for.
>>>
>>>
>>> None of them would ever call for any of the "stuff" they say or do to be
>>> known publicly... that would be uncalled for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else need to more about what and why this kind of stuff is uncalled
>>> for?
>>>
>>> Look back in the day... we took the *Expert companies at their word since
>>> after all they had "expert" in the work and started with "I" so I'm sure
>> in
>>> the back of all of our naive minds... we were collectively thinking... if
>>> "I" learn from these "experts" then one day "I" would be an "expert"
>> too...
>>>
>>> Follow the Master
>>> Walk Beside the Master
>>> Be the Master
>>>
>>> The problem was and still is that some of these guys... not all of them...
>>> may have never actually worked on a production network at all or never
>> were
>>> "the guy" in the first place and so not all of their well intentioned labs
>>> are wholely baked or worse... like that one guy who keeps trying to
>>> undermine an accepted manner of performing a task.... his experiments are
>> on
>>> a limited set of equipment - so while what he says may be true for 3-4
>>> devices or even in a small rack... (which in the example of one of the
>>> "MYTH" series is clearly mentioned on Cisco's site by the way)... he's
>>> cluelessly happy thinking he "debunked" a myth or something...
>>>
>>> Others read it, respect the guy for whatever reason, and commit that to
>>> their accepted beliefs without really checking the facts...
>>>
>>> Dis-Service to the community.
>>>
>>> I'd say stuff like that is uncalled for.... totally uncalled for...
>>>
>>>
>>> Truthfully - If I were shopping for a class or a vendor at this moment...
>>> I'd shop around... that's really called for.
>>>
>>> Vendors who put people they never heard of or never even attended their
>>> classes bought their products or were totally dis-satisfied with their
>>> products and then using those people and their CCIE numbers quite
>> FALSELY...
>>>
>>> I'd say that is totally uncalled for.
>>>
>>> Check the archives here on GS and use Google to find the slimy "*Expert"
>>> companies who fit the M.O....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darby
>>>
>>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agrred, totally uncalled for :/
>>>> On Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM, "Ernest McCaleb" <emccaleb_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Uncalled for Darby...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ernest McCaleb #21508
>>>>>
>>>>> - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
>>>> circumference
>>>>> of darkness. --Albert Einstein
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get
>> .html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even classes)
>>>> where
>>>>>> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
>>>> shave,
>>>>>> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy they
>>>> created
>>>>>> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in front
>>>> of
>>>>>> paying students...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My advice:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately...
>> Call
>>>>>> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save may
>> be
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to send
>>>> you
>>>>>> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time they
>> may
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
>>>>>> mistakes...)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable instructors
>>>> have
>>>>>> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven, unprepared
>>>>>> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level topics
>> as
>>>> a
>>>>>> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention or
>> even
>>>>>> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are
>> probably
>>>>>> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
>>>>>> inadequacy...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the hell
>> you
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video, or
>>>> worse
>>>>>> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial
>> difficulties"....
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
>>>> nice...
>>>>>> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik and
>>>> what
>>>>>> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
>>>>>> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to pay
>>>> for
>>>>>> their addiction...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are out
>>>>>> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know the
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darby
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Darby Weaver
>>>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
>>>>>>
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