Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

Darby and his controversial character,welcome back!!!!!

On 4/30/11, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Darby I wasn't agreeing with you, I was agreeing with Ernest. I'm sure
> you're a good guy however bashing vendors in a public forum is just plain
> wrong. I myself am a customer of one of the "expert" vendors and the
> materials, as well as the support that I get are second to none. Marko,
> Scott, Narbik, Tyson and all the others are all excellent instructors, and
> we should be grateful they exist, all of them have helped me tremondously in
> my CCIE preperation, as well as my career. However that being said I'm going
> back to my studies and disengaging from this worthless thread.
>
> Cheers!
> On Apr 30, 2011 6:30 AM, "Darby Weaver" <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> I totally agree with you guys - those materials that are half baked or
> NEVER
>> materialize are also uncalled for...
>>
>> Who remembers buying audio from from one company that was never
> finished...
>> even after it was discontinued...
>>
>> Who remembers buying video from the came company for labs... apparently
> not
>> profitable enough for continuation and so it too was abandoned...
>>
>> But wait!!! Only later the same sets of videos re-appear as a "NEW"
>> product... that can be purchased yet again!
>>
>> That's uncalled for...
>>
>>
>> Dude!
>>
>> Some of these companies that do this kind of stuff really are uncalled for
>> and if everyone who gets shucked and jived speaks up about it....
>>
>> A lot less of us would ever be calling them again.
>>
>> But, hey.. that's uncalled for.
>>
>>
>> None of them would ever call for any of the "stuff" they say or do to be
>> known publicly... that would be uncalled for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone else need to more about what and why this kind of stuff is uncalled
>> for?
>>
>> Look back in the day... we took the *Expert companies at their word since
>> after all they had "expert" in the work and started with "I" so I'm sure
> in
>> the back of all of our naive minds... we were collectively thinking... if
>> "I" learn from these "experts" then one day "I" would be an "expert"
> too...
>>
>> Follow the Master
>> Walk Beside the Master
>> Be the Master
>>
>> The problem was and still is that some of these guys... not all of them...
>> may have never actually worked on a production network at all or never
> were
>> "the guy" in the first place and so not all of their well intentioned labs
>> are wholely baked or worse... like that one guy who keeps trying to
>> undermine an accepted manner of performing a task.... his experiments are
> on
>> a limited set of equipment - so while what he says may be true for 3-4
>> devices or even in a small rack... (which in the example of one of the
>> "MYTH" series is clearly mentioned on Cisco's site by the way)... he's
>> cluelessly happy thinking he "debunked" a myth or something...
>>
>> Others read it, respect the guy for whatever reason, and commit that to
>> their accepted beliefs without really checking the facts...
>>
>> Dis-Service to the community.
>>
>> I'd say stuff like that is uncalled for.... totally uncalled for...
>>
>>
>> Truthfully - If I were shopping for a class or a vendor at this moment...
>> I'd shop around... that's really called for.
>>
>> Vendors who put people they never heard of or never even attended their
>> classes bought their products or were totally dis-satisfied with their
>> products and then using those people and their CCIE numbers quite
> FALSELY...
>>
>> I'd say that is totally uncalled for.
>>
>> Check the archives here on GS and use Google to find the slimy "*Expert"
>> companies who fit the M.O....
>>
>>
>>
>> Darby
>>
>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agrred, totally uncalled for :/
>>> On Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM, "Ernest McCaleb" <emccaleb_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Uncalled for Darby...
>>> >
>>> > Ernest McCaleb #21508
>>> >
>>> > - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
>>> circumference
>>> > of darkness. --Albert Einstein
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
> http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even classes)
>>> where
>>> >> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
>>> shave,
>>> >> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy they
>>> created
>>> >> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in front
>>> of
>>> >> paying students...
>>> >>
>>> >> My advice:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately...
> Call
>>> >> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save may
> be
>>> >> your
>>> >> own.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to send
>>> you
>>> >> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time they
> may
>>> >> have
>>> >> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
>>> >> mistakes...)...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
>>> >>
>>> >> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable instructors
>>> have
>>> >> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven, unprepared
>>> >> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level topics
> as
>>> a
>>> >> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
>>> >>
>>> >> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention or
> even
>>> >> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are
> probably
>>> >> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
>>> >> inadequacy...
>>> >>
>>> >> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the hell
> you
>>> >> were
>>> >> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video, or
>>> worse
>>> >> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial
> difficulties"....
>>> >> etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
>>> >>
>>> >> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
>>> nice...
>>> >> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik and
>>> what
>>> >> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
>>> >> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to pay
>>> for
>>> >> their addiction...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are out
>>> >> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know the
>>> >> difference.
>>> >>
>>> >> Darby
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Darby Weaver
>>> >> Network Engineer
>>> >> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>>> >>
>>> >> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
>>> >>
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>> Darby Weaver
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>>
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