Re: ATM-AToM

From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:42:24 +0000

Mohamed,

If you have Ethernet DSLAM, ATM OAM will not work. If you have ATM
DSLAM, the ATM OAM feature will work.

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:33, Mohamed Osama <tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Tyson,
>
> I have a doubt about some issue : wouldn't you think that the IP-DSLAM would terminate the OAM LOOpback Messages at the Ethernet Uplink port TO the PE Router?
>
> I hope to give me a solution for this Issue as The DSLAM Connected To ATM through the Customer and Ethernet Link To The PE Router,this is why we have a Problem as We before we migrate from ATM DSLAM to IP DSLAM,there wasn't any problem.
>
>
>
> ThANKS,
> Osama
>
>> From: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> To: tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com; dcp_at_dcptech.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:12:53 -0500
>>
>> You are trying to perform the role of the CE in this. The CE needs to do
>> OAM between CE locations and make routing decisions based on the best path,
>> This is not the role of the provider in this scenario to decide how to
>> forward traffic over the two paths. That is the role of the customer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mohamed Osama [mailto:tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:56 AM
>> To: dcp_at_dcptech.com; tscott_at_ipexpert.com; Cisco certification
>> Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes thats True and CE want Us To Provide Him with Another Layer 2 circuit so
>> that in this case CE will be Connected to our PE1 with 2 Layer 2 Circuits on
>> Separate 2 ATM interfaces on PE1 router and For Sure our PE1 will have
>> xconnect to the other End PE2.
>>
>>
>>
>> In My scenario,I'm talking about the Layer 2 circuit,How I can Detect if the
>> ATM Layer 2 Circuit between PE and CE is UP or Down,
>>
>> and if it's Down,how can i provision the Other Layer 2 Circuit to be used
>> For AToM Layer 2 VPN,and if both up how load balance and load sharing will
>> be down.
>>
>>
>>
>> Its similar to the case when having 2 static Route under VRF with Tracking
>> IP SLA but this for LAyer 3 customer which is Using Routing not LAyer 2 vpn
>> :) ---------- I said this as an example Just to clear my point :D
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Osama
>>
>> > From: dcp_at_dcptech.com
>> > To: tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com; tscott_at_ipexpert.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:38:54 -0500
>> >
>> > AToM requires the PE's to have L3 connectivity. The PE/CE connection is
>> L2.
>> > On the PE ATM interface you will have "xconnect 1.1.1.1 100 encap mpls"
>> > where 1.1.1.1 is the loopback on the other PE.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://dcp.dcptech.com
>> >
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > > Mohamed Osama
>> > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:02 AM
>> > > To: tscott_at_ipexpert.com; Cisco certification
>> > > Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> > >
>> > > Dear Tyson,
>> > > what if there is no layer 3 information between PE Router and the
>> > > customer Router,only layer 2 ATM circuit and we are offering them 2
>> > > Layer 2 AToM circuit for redundancy.
>> > > How can i do that??beside i can't do any changes at the Customer
>> > > Router.
>> > > I appreciate helping me in this case.
>> > > Thanks,Osama
>> > >
>> > > > From: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> > > > To: tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > > > Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:26:02 -0500
>> > > >
>> > > > If the OAM loopback responses are lost then the PVC goes down which
>> > > will
>> > > > force the traffic in the other direction. I am under the presumption
>> > > you
>> > > > have some L3 traffic running across the connection. Simply routing
>> > > of the
>> > > > connection between the sites should do. I am under the hope that you
>> > > > designed this terminating the AToM with Loopbacks as the
>> > > source/destination
>> > > > allowing simply routing protocol path preference to decide the path
>> > > to take.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> > > > Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> > > > Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Mohamed Osama [mailto:tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:20 AM
>> > > > To: tscott_at_ipexpert.com; Cisco certification
>> > > > Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Tyson,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks For Your Valuable Information,
>> > > >
>> > > > But How can i use It To monitor and Manage The Customer Layer 2 VPN
>> > > Circuit,
>> > > >
>> > > > so that if The First AToM layer 2 VPN circuit can Detect its Down,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > then Can Utilize The Other Layer 2 VPN Link To be Active In The Layer
>> > > 2
>> > > > AToM?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Any Advices About This?what configurations should be applied to the
>> > > Router
>> > > > to Solve that?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I appreciate Your Response
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > Osama
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> > > > > To: tetoo_me_at_hotmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > > > > Subject: RE: ATM-AToM
>> > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:22:34 -0500
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is called OAM management.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk39/tk51/technologies_q_and_a_item0918
>> > > 6a008
>> > > > > 0111154.shtml
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> > > > > Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> > > > > Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> > > Behalf Of
>> > > > > Mohamed Osama
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:49 AM
>> > > > > To: Cisco certification
>> > > > > Subject: ATM-AToM
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dear Experts,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can you please help me with this issue :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I need to monitor the status of Layer 2 Circuit Carrying ATom-
>> > > ATM,because
>> > > > > the Customer is connected with two layer 2 links through ATM/DSLAM
>> > > to our
>> > > > PE
>> > > > > Router.
>> > > > > I need to find a way so that i can monitor the Status of Layer 2
>> > > LINK
>> > > > > carring AToM to Be able to Utlize the Primary link and Backup Link.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > CPE------two Links-----ATM DSLAM---------Two Links-------PE
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kindly notes i can't monitor the Status of Interfaces because the
>> > > DSLAM
>> > > > > doesnt provide it and we need to check layer 2 end to end.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Any Mechanism To Provide that Solution?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thanks,
>> > > > > Osama
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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