Re: NO MAIL ON Group study

So it's relevant but the questions are very vague.
Thanks for the info.

How much do you think it will cost to setup a lab to prep for this? A very
rough estimate..

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Roman Rodichev <roman_at_iementor.com> wrote:

> Very much so. It's a good lab. I never had to go more than twice before,
> and now three failed attempts! Troubleshooting section is very well done,
> and it deserves to have more things on it. Q&A is tough, and unfortunately
> it's done in CCDE style (a.k.a. vagueness). This is why I made that comment
> about training. Those who took CCDE know that there is no way to have
> trained for it. It's all about 'beating the system'. But I shouldn't
> complain, Cisco sets the rules
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Do you think it's relevant to the real SP day-to-day operation?
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Roman Rodichev < <roman_at_iementor.com>
> roman_at_iementor.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, those "others" are me alone, no one else took it yet :) The first
>> 2-4
>> guys were beta testers from V. After trying SP Ops lab three times with no
>> luck I can honestly say that no content, workbook or bootcamp will prepare
>> you for this track unless the author knows the test and writes content
>> around it without trying to break NDA. The troubleshooting section is
>> quite
>> simple for those who have SP track and know IOS-XR, but good luck on the
>> question/answer section. If you took CCDE exam, you'll know what I'm
>> talking
>> about.
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Tyson Scott < <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
>> tscott_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I know some that have sat and passed OPS. I know of others that have
>> sat
>> > and failed it. I am sure there are more that I am not aware of. We are
>> > developing content for it but for most people out there the
>> pre-requisite
>> > will be getting your ITIL foundations certification to be aware of the
>> > processes and procedure guidelines associated with it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> > Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> > Mailto: <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:<nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Gaurav Thukral
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:48 AM
>> > To: Shaughn Smith
>> > Cc: Group study
>> > Subject: Re: NO MAIL ON Group study
>> >
>> > But fact is fact. Nobody gave CCIE SP Ops Yet.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Gaurav Thukral
>> > < <pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > U can Sir i have no problem.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Gaurav
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Shaughn Smith
>> > < <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com>maniac.smg_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Sorry but I have to laugh at this.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent from my iPhone 4
>> > >>
>> > >> On 26 Oct 2010, at 11:23 AM, Gaurav Thukral <<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>
>> pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I think people stopped studying CISCO . There are no mails on
>> > groupstudy
>> > >> or
>> > >> > they solved all the troubleshooting tickets?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have seen the new CCIE SP blueprint. I think very few people will
>> go
>> > >> for
>> > >> > it. CISCO will not be able to generate so much revenue from CCIE
>> > >> > Certifications further.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Regards,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Gaurav
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
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