Re: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

although they vaguely mentioned they might think of releasing that one
and the one for switching emulation back in April when they held a
presentation re OEQ removal etc. But who remembers? :-)

A.

On 10/22/2010 7:19 AM, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> Which is really a shame.
>
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> On Oct 21, 2010, at 20:01, "Brad Ellis"<brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but they seem to have a pretty tight grip on IOU. I wouldn't
>> expect Cisco to release it to the public anytime soon.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brad Ellis
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ccieyarub [mailto:ccieyarub_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:02 PM
>> To: Brad Ellis
>> Cc: Alexei Monastyrnyi; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
>>
>> IOS XR already virtualized inside CISCO there is so many CISCO employees
>> who are using this virtual ios xr
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bert
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2010-10-21, at 3:25 PM, "Brad Ellis"<brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Flourishing? That really depends on the demand for the track and how
>>> much $$ it will cost per rack. Kind of like the CCIE Wireless and the
>>> CCIE storage. There's not a whole lot of options out there for them
>>> because the equipment is so expensive and the CCIE tract itself isn't
>>> as popular.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Alexei Monastyrnyi
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:57 AM
>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
>>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
>>>
>>> There will be rental labs flourishing for SP track. I don't think
>>> Cisco cares much about personal labs etc. There wil be hardware
>>> refreshes for RS and Security in the future, let along wireless and
>>> voice: they can't stay the same forever. Dynamips has passed the peak
>>> of its glory and this pendulum is swinging to an opposite direction
>>> (as it always does once in a while).
>>>
>>> So abandon the hope, get real, go rent. :-) Seriously, for many of us
>>> who has families and kids, spare time for studies is a limited
>>> quantity.
>>>
>>> 6 years ago I was happy working after-hours, building my real lab from
>>> left-overs and tuning Dynamips and PEMU on multi-cpu Linux servers
>>> which were idling during night shifts.
>>>
>>> Now I go rent say Security 3.0 POD, a 3-hr slot 3 times a week, 4 AUD
>>> per hour, and have no concerns. :-)
>>>
>>> Sorry for getting slightly OT, my point is, it is not that bad. It is
>>> a lot of good in those HW refreshes, it keeps certification at the
>>> edge..
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2010 11:27 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>>> I am sure Cisco will come up with something or else this track is
>>>> dead
>>>> as far as i am concerned. Maybe they will provide racks for Cisco
>>>> partners, who knows?
>>>>
>>>> If they want to be relevent, then, they should change the R&S track
>>>> as
>>> well.
>>>> They should change the 3560s to two 6500s and some 3750s, i don't see
>>>> them doing that at all. So the money factor comes in to play, but i
>>>> am
>>>> sure that Cisco will come up with something. I hope.....
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Marko
>>> Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>>>>> No surprises there. I think the equipment list is reasonable and
>>>>> relevant for the Service Provider track. I'm glad Cisco went this
>>> way.
>>>>> This keeps the certification relevant in the market.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could have been worse. This is perfectly fine. In fact, I'm very
>>>>> happy with this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:28, Jeffrey Pazahanick<jeffpaz_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hardware is posted..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10121
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lab Equipment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B Cisco XR12000 Series Routers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B Cisco 7200/7600 Series equivalent Routers (Using Simulator)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B Cisco ME3400E Series Switches
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software Versions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B XR12000 routers running IOS-XR Software Version 3.9.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B 7200/7600 routers running IOS Software Version 12.2-33 SR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B B ME3400E switches running IOS Software Version 12.2-54 SE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Gaurav
>>>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree.That will be expensive. But do not worry, i am 100 % sure
>>>>>>> that IPexpert Team will help us to attain that magic no. They will
>>>>>>> start IOS XR rack rental soon& also Develop a material for new
>>> Blueprint.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Gaurav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Robert Hosford<
>>>>> rhosford_at_certifiednets.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> How does an average Joe afford this? It seems to me a much more
>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>> CCIE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>> Andrey Petrenko
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:47 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Marko Milivojevic
>>>>>>>> Cc: Gaurav Thukral; groupstudy; OSL Service Provider
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be
>>> true.
>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> they have it the same way they have IOU, then it's a distinct
>>>>>>>>> possibility. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:06, Gaurav
>>>>>>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Cisco also has a IOS XR Simulator they can also use that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Gaurav
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Marko Milivojevic
>>>>>>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:30, Markus BC6ing
>>>>>>>>>>> <markus.boeing_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much money.
>>>>>>>>>>>> XR& IOU? I don't think they go together.
>>>>>>>>>>> IOU supports talking to live systems. Therefore, one server
>>>>>>>>>>> running multiple IOU instances can be connected to couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> XR
>>>>>>>>>>> boxes to build very powerful and scalable lab.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, I don't believe XR itself can be virtualized in the
>>>>>>>>>>> same way IOS can with IOU. Then again, I don't work for Cisco,
>>>>>>>>>>> all this
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> heard from people who do :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor -
>>>>>>>>>>> IPexpert
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