Fully agree. I would love to have a XR simulation...
...or to get the simulation Cisco is already using :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Marko Milivojevic
Sent: Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2010 22:20
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Ccieyarub; Alexei Monastyrnyi; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy
Subject: Re: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
Which is really a shame.
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert Free CCIE Training: http://bit.ly/vLecture Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Community: http://www.ipexpert.com/communities :: Sent from my phone. Apologies for errors and brevity. :: On Oct 21, 2010, at 20:01, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote: > Yeah, but they seem to have a pretty tight grip on IOU. I wouldn't > expect Cisco to release it to the public anytime soon. > > > thanks, > Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > CCSI# 30482 > CEO / President > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com > Toll Free: 877-654-2243 > International: +1-702-968-5100 > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call > FAX: +1-702-446-8012 > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits! > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ccieyarub [mailto:ccieyarub_at_gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:02 PM > To: Brad Ellis > Cc: Alexei Monastyrnyi; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy > Subject: Re: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint > > IOS XR already virtualized inside CISCO there is so many CISCO > employees who are using this virtual ios xr > > Cheers > Bert > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2010-10-21, at 3:25 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote: > >> Flourishing? That really depends on the demand for the track and how >> much $$ it will cost per rack. Kind of like the CCIE Wireless and >> the > >> CCIE storage. There's not a whole lot of options out there for them >> because the equipment is so expensive and the CCIE tract itself isn't >> as popular. >> >> thanks, >> Brad Ellis >> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) >> CCSI# 30482 >> CEO / President >> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) >> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com >> Toll Free: 877-654-2243 >> International: +1-702-968-5100 >> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call >> FAX: +1-702-446-8012 >> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits! >> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf >> Of Alexei Monastyrnyi >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:57 AM >> To: Narbik Kocharians >> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint >> >> There will be rental labs flourishing for SP track. I don't think >> Cisco cares much about personal labs etc. There wil be hardware >> refreshes for RS and Security in the future, let along wireless and >> voice: they can't stay the same forever. Dynamips has passed the >> peak > >> of its glory and this pendulum is swinging to an opposite direction >> (as it always does once in a while). >> >> So abandon the hope, get real, go rent. :-) Seriously, for many of us >> who has families and kids, spare time for studies is a limited >> quantity. >> >> 6 years ago I was happy working after-hours, building my real lab >> from > >> left-overs and tuning Dynamips and PEMU on multi-cpu Linux servers >> which were idling during night shifts. >> >> Now I go rent say Security 3.0 POD, a 3-hr slot 3 times a week, 4 AUD >> per hour, and have no concerns. :-) >> >> Sorry for getting slightly OT, my point is, it is not that bad. It is >> a lot of good in those HW refreshes, it keeps certification at the >> edge.. >> >> A. >> >> On 10/21/2010 11:27 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote: >>> I am sure Cisco will come up with something or else this track is >>> dead >> >>> as far as i am concerned. Maybe they will provide racks for Cisco >>> partners, who knows? >>> >>> If they want to be relevent, then, they should change the R&S track >>> as >> well. >>> They should change the 3560s to two 6500s and some 3750s, i don't >>> see > >>> them doing that at all. So the money factor comes in to play, but i >>> am >> >>> sure that Cisco will come up with something. I hope..... >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Marko >> Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote: >>> >>>> No surprises there. I think the equipment list is reasonable and >>>> relevant for the Service Provider track. I'm glad Cisco went this >> way. >>>> This keeps the certification relevant in the market. >>>> >>>> It could have been worse. This is perfectly fine. In fact, I'm very >>>> happy with this list. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 >>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert >>>> >>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture >>>> >>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:28, Jeffrey >>>> Pazahanick<jeffpaz_at_gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hardware is posted.. >>>>> >>>>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10121 >>>>> >>>>> Lab Equipment >>>>> >>>>> B B Cisco XR12000 Series Routers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> B B Cisco 7200/7600 Series equivalent Routers (Using Simulator) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> B B Cisco ME3400E Series Switches >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Software Versions >>>>> >>>>> B B XR12000 routers running IOS-XR Software Version 3.9.1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> B B 7200/7600 routers running IOS Software Version 12.2-33 SR >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> B B ME3400E switches running IOS Software Version 12.2-54 SE >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Gaurav >>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> I agree.That will be expensive. But do not worry, i am 100 % sure >>>>>> that IPexpert Team will help us to attain that magic no. They >>>>>> will > >>>>>> start IOS XR rack rental soon& also Develop a material for new >> Blueprint. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gaurav >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Robert Hosford< >>>> rhosford_at_certifiednets.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> How does an average Joe afford this? It seems to me a much more >>>> expensive >>>>>>> CCIE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>> Of >>>>>>> Andrey Petrenko >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:47 PM >>>>>>> To: Marko Milivojevic >>>>>>> Cc: Gaurav Thukral; groupstudy; OSL Service Provider >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>: >>>>>>>> I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be >> true. >>>> If >>>>>>>> they have it the same way they have IOU, then it's a distinct >>>>>>>> possibility. I suppose we'll have to wait and see. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - >>>>>>>> IPexpert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:06, Gaurav >>>>>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Cisco also has a IOS XR Simulator they can also use that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gaurav >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Marko Milivojevic >>>>>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:30, Markus BC6ing >>>>>>>>>> <markus.boeing_at_gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> so much money. >>>>>>>>>>> XR& IOU? I don't think they go together. >>>>>>>>>> IOU supports talking to live systems. Therefore, one server >>>>>>>>>> running multiple IOU instances can be connected to couple of >>>>>>>>>> XR >> >>>>>>>>>> boxes to build very powerful and scalable lab. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I said, I don't believe XR itself can be virtualized in >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> same way IOS can with IOU. Then again, I don't work for >>>>>>>>>> Cisco, > >>>>>>>>>> all this >>>> I >>>>>>>>>> heard from people who do :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - >>>>>>>>>> IPexpert >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>>>>>>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab >>>>>>>> training, please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With best regards, >>>>>>> Andrey 'sshd' Petrenko >>>>>>> xmmp\gtalk: andy.petrenko at gmail.com >>>>>>> skype: andy.petrenko >>>>>>> web: http://sshd.by >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> _ >>>>>>> _ > > >>>>>>> _____ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> _ >>>>>> _ > > >>>>>> ____ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________________________ >>>>> _ >>>>> _ > > >>>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> _ > > >>>> __ Subscription information may be found at: >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> _ > > >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> _ > > >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Fri Oct 22 2010 - 13:08:54 ART
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