I am going to have to disagree with all of you on this... Not on what worked or what didn't but on the method you came to this conclusion.
When there are vague tasks such as the one presented, you need to look forward and base your decision on future tasks. Thats what these WBs are trying to help with and it is not to base your decision(s) on the task at hand but know how all the technologies work together. So if you do it one way, it will break this or won't allow me to do that so keep that in mind the next time that a question like that comes up.
That is why every CCIE that has earned there number will all say the exact same thing, read the entire lab first and not just read it but configure it in your head. That is where you will find enlightenment! ( At least I am hoping :) )
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On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:38 AM, "Grammer, Christopher" <cgrammer_at_essilorusa.com> wrote:
> I always have a problem with interpreting this type of questions.
>
> If the requirement states that all configuration must be on the physical
> interface, what is the difference between using a virtual template and a
> subinterface?
> Both a virtual template and subinterface are logical interface attached to
> the physical interface.
>
> The requirement states: "All configurations should be done on the physical
> interface"
>
> In the case of a PPP virtual template, all configuration is not on the
> physical interface...Some is on a virtual template
> The IP address for instance is NOT on the physical interface.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sonu Khandelwal (sokhande) <
> sokhande_at_cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Spot on!!!
>>
>> Yes, ppp over frame-relay is the solution!!!
>>
>> I just tried to simulate using following topology and it worked for me.
>>
>> R2---R1---R3
>>
>>
>> Config from R1:
>>
>> R1#sh run int virtual-tem 102
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 74 bytes
>> !
>> interface Virtual-Template102
>> ip address 20.10.13.1 255.255.255.0
>> end
>>
>> R1#sh run int virtual-tem 103
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 74 bytes
>> !
>> interface Virtual-Template103
>> ip address 20.10.35.1 255.255.255.0
>> end
>>
>> R1#sh run int se 6/0
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 181 bytes
>> !
>> interface Serial6/0
>> no ip address
>> encapsulation frame-relay
>> frame-relay interface-dlci 102 ppp Virtual-Template102
>> frame-relay interface-dlci 103 ppp Virtual-Template103
>> end
>>
>>
>> Config from R2:
>>
>> R2#sh run int virtual-template 102
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 74 bytes
>> !
>> interface Virtual-Template102
>> ip address 20.10.13.2 255.255.255.0
>> end
>>
>> R2#sh run int se 4/0
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 149 bytes
>> !
>> interface Serial4/0
>> no ip address
>> encapsulation frame-relay
>> serial restart-delay 0
>> frame-relay interface-dlci 201 ppp Virtual-Template102
>>
>> Config from R3:
>>
>> R3#sh run int virtual-te 103
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 74 bytes
>> !
>> interface Virtual-Template103
>> ip address 20.10.35.3 255.255.255.0
>> end
>>
>> R3#sh run int se 4/0
>> Building configuration...
>>
>> Current configuration : 125 bytes
>> !
>> interface Serial4/0
>> no ip address
>> encapsulation frame-relay
>> frame-relay interface-dlci 301 ppp Virtual-Template103
>>
>> Verification:
>>
>> R1#ping 20.10.13.2
>>
>> Type escape sequence to abort.
>> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 20.10.13.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
>> !!!!!
>> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms
>> R1#ping 20.10.35.3
>>
>> Type escape sequence to abort.
>> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 20.10.35.3, timeout is 2 seconds:
>> !!!!!
>> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms
>> R1#sh fram
>> R1#sh frame-re
>> R1#sh frame-relay pv
>> R1#sh frame-relay pvc 102 ?
>> 64-bit show frame relay pvc 64bit counter statistics
>> | Output modifiers
>> <cr>
>>
>> R1#sh frame-relay pvc 102
>>
>> PVC Statistics for interface Serial6/0 (Frame Relay DTE)
>>
>> DLCI = 102, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>> Serial6/0
>>
>> input pkts 19 output pkts 99 in bytes 2332
>> out bytes 2064 dropped pkts 0 in pkts dropped 0
>>
>> out pkts dropped 0 out bytes dropped 0
>> in FECN pkts 0 in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0
>>
>> out BECN pkts 0 in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
>>
>> out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
>> 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>> 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>> pvc create time 00:14:52, last time pvc status changed 00:01:34
>> Bound to Virtual-Access2 (up, cloned from Virtual-Template102)
>> R1#sh frame-relay pvc 103
>>
>> PVC Statistics for interface Serial6/0 (Frame Relay DTE)
>>
>> DLCI = 103, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>> Serial6/0
>>
>> input pkts 15 output pkts 118 in bytes 240
>> out bytes 2996 dropped pkts 0 in pkts dropped 0
>>
>> out pkts dropped 0 out bytes dropped 0
>> in FECN pkts 0 in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0
>>
>> out BECN pkts 0 in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
>>
>> out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
>> 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>> 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>> pvc create time 00:10:07, last time pvc status changed 00:10:07
>> Bound to Virtual-Access3 (up, cloned from Virtual-Template103)
>> R1#
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sonu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Mohamed Ouamer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:06 PM
>> To: Marcelo Rosa; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Frame Relay Interface Configuration problem
>>
>> Try to configure PPP over Frame Relay.
>>
>> Hope this help!
>>
>> Mohamed Ouamer
>> http://www.ciscocciebootcamp.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/8/10 Marcelo Rosa <MRosa_at_multirede.com.br>
>>
>>> Sorry. Let me rephrase.
>>>
>>> 2.1 - Frame Relay Hub&Spoke
>>> - Configure frame realy between R1, R3 and R5, using R3 as Hub
>>> - All configurations should be done on the physical interface
>>> - The connection between R1 and R3 must use the 20.10.13.0/24 network
>>> - The connection between R5 and R3 must use the 20.10.35.0/24 network
>>> - Do not use secondary ip addresses on R3
>>>
>>> So, on R3 we have one interface, two IP addresses and two PCVs. I
>> cannot
>>> use
>>> neither secondary addresses nor subinterfaces.
>>>
>>> Hope I clarified.
>>>
>>> MR
>>>
>>> De: masroor ali [mailto:masror.ali_at_gmail.com]
>>> Enviada em: terga-feira, 10 de agosto de 2010 11:09
>>> Para: Marcelo Rosa; Cisco certification
>>> Assunto: Re: Frame Relay Interface Configuration problem
>>>
>>> i could not understand your question bro,
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Marcelo Rosa
>>> <MRosa_at_multirede.com.br<mailto:MRosa_at_multirede.com.br>> wrote:
>>> The question states:
>>> Configure FR between R1, R3 and R5
>>> PVCs are as follow: R1-R3 (103-301) and R3-R5 (305-503)
>>>
>>> Link between R1 and R3 should use network 20.10.13.0/24<
>>> http://20.10.13.0/24>
>>> Link between R5 and R3 should use network 20.10.35.0/24<
>>> http://20.10.35.0/24>
>>>
>>> Configuration only in the Physical interfaces. No secondary ip
>> addresses
>>> allowed.
>>>
>>> I4m stuck. As far as I know there4s no way to solve this. Am I wrong?
>>>
>>> Thks,
>>>
>>> MR
>>>
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