FW: A students' review of Narbik's CCIE Boot Camp

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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Seonarain
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Ron Lim
Cc: Manouchehr Omari; Raghav Bhargava; George Philip; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: A students' review of Narbik's CCIE Boot Camp

I'm a student of Narbik also. I totally agree. I took his written bootcamp
and was blown away by the amount of material he covered, that I decided to
take his bootcamp for the lab. If you're not ready for his style of
teaching you'll be surprised. I say go thru his workbooks at least once
before attending the bootcamp. Narbik reminds me of a math teacher I had
growing up. He knew if you know the material or not just by looking at you.
Thanks Narbik. Now back to studying.

MS

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Ron Lim <gottobeccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm an old student of his and I totally agreed!
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>
> On 5/22/10, Manouchehr Omari <manouchehr1979_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, I have registered on 5th July, 2010.
> >
> > On 5/21/10, Raghav Bhargava <raghavbhargava12_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I would totally agree with all of this.. I attended Narbik's
> >> Bootcamp
> and
> >> it
> >> is the best i would say.
> >>
> >> -Raghav
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, George Philip
> >> <gphilip88_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A students review of Narbik s CCIE Boot Camp:
> >>>
> >>> I recently attended the 5 day CIERS-I + Narbik s 2.0 Boot Camp
> >>> held in Richardson, TX; this class is part of the Cisco 360
> >>> Program. I'll provide some highlights from my experience on the 5
> >>> days I spent with Narbik.
> >>>
> >>> Initially, I was drawn to Narbik's CCIE Boot camp after having
> >>> read about his non-conventional way of teaching the CCIE Lab exam
topics.
> >>> By that I mean, Narbik's CCIE Boot camp does not use power point
> >>> slides, printed materials, or pre-made diagrams. Instead he
> >>> relies on a whiteboard and hand drawn diagrams to teach and explain
concepts.
> >>> Using whiteboard diagrams in his class, instead of power point
> >>> slides, set Narbik apart from the other offerings to me. I draw a
> >>> lot of diagrams when doing labs and was intrigued by a teaching
> >>> method that used a similar concept. Not a decision maker, but I
> >>> also found posts that said Narbik has a savant like memory for the
> >>> CLI. Needless to say, I was a little skeptical anyone could
> >>> memorize enough of the IOS CLI to teach at a CCIE level.
> >>>
> >>> With that said, here is my experience from the boot camp:
> >>>
> >>> Day 1: Introduction, Switching and Frame-relay. Narbik s CCIE
> >>> boot camp classes start at 9AM and goes until at least 9PM. We
> >>> started out with introductions and then jumped into CCIE level
> >>> basics on security and QoS for the switching platform. Once the
> >>> lecture was done, as promised using only the whiteboard and hand
> >>> drawn diagrams, we looked through the labs and started with
> >>> switching. After a brief break for lunch, the Frame-relay
> >>> lectures on configurations and complexities kept the class lively.
> >>> Narbik gave us the labs pertaining to the frame-relay topics
> >>> covered after the lecture. Even on day 1, the class was intense with
a lot of topics covered in detail.
> >>>
> >>> Day 2: OSPF and EIGRP. Narbik covers OSPF and EIGRP with such
> >>> thoroughness that I ended up with 4 pages of hand written notes
> >>> and 2 pages worth of typed notes. This even though I felt I had a
> >>> pretty good understand of both of those topics. He covered the
> >>> usual stuff but then pulled out ninja techniques and
> >>> demonstrated behaviors within these IGPs I did not expect. During
> >>> the lectures, he asks the students to setup a basic infrastructure
> >>> and do debugging to illustrate the concepts even further. Narbik
> >>> s lectures are very interactive, he asks if you understood what
> >>> was just explained and if someone brings up a question, he
> >>> re-explains it until everyone fully grasps the concepts. During
> >>> his explanations, he will re-draw diagrams or modify existing ones to
illustrate points.
> >>>
> >>> Day 3: QoS - I went in very unsure of many concepts in this area.
> >>> Once he started his lectures, it was clear many of the students
> >>> were in the same situation as I was. There were so many diagrams
> >>> and notes written on the white board by lunch time, the board was
> >>> black. We had to enlist the facilities staff to bring in
> >>> industrial white board cleaner, wet wipes, and a roll of napkins
> >>> to clean the board. Again my notes were filling page after page.
> >>> He had to stop after every topic and explain it in at least 3
> >>> different ways so everyone understood it. I can now safely say,
> >>> QoS is not as scary as I made it out to be. I think class went until
10 or 11 on day 3.
> >>>
> >>> Day 4: RIP, BGP, MPLS - The grueling pace was starting to take
> >>> its toll, however, Narbik found a way to make RIP interesting.
> >>> BGP was covered thoroughly and generated quite a few diagrams and
questions.
> >>> MPLS was a topic almost the entire class had listed as a weak point.
> >>> Narbik explained MPLS in a way a kindergartener would be able to
> >>> understand. Then he proceeded to draw out a diagram and explain
> >>> the process step by step. Again, very through and Narbik's
> >>> animated way of teaching made complex concepts seem simple.
> >>>
> >>> Day 5: Multicast v4/v6, questions, wrap-up - Narbik covers
> >>> Multicasting from a practical point of view. This made it very
> >>> easy to see what the different components of Multicasting
> >>> contribute towards the overall infrastructure. Once this was
> >>> done, we discussed a few other topics from the previous lectures
> >>> and wrapped up for the week. From looking around, everyone seemed
> >>> to be in a daze from information overload.
> >>>
> >>> Narbik s boot camp is designed to make the students an expert, not
> >>> just achieve the number. The lectures are geared towards teaching
> >>> the concepts and underlying fundamentals on CCIE Lab exam. It
> >>> will push you closer to passing the lab by enabling you to
> >>> understand the pitfalls and end-goals for seemingly minute details
within the tasks.
> >>> This method of teaching also made me more confident about
> >>> resolving any scenario thrown in for the troubleshooting portion of
the lab.
> >>> Each topic is covered in depth highlighting abnormal behaviors,
> >>> commands used to configure and change behaviors, hidden features
> >>> and alternative (non-conventional) ways to achieve desired behaviors.
> >>> Interactions among functions of IOS are covered in depth so the
> >>> student understands what each one does and why certain features
> >>> have to be used in tandem or configured through an AS. I ve only
> >>> listed the high level topics in my review but Narbik covers the
> >>> full suite of CCIE lab topics throughout the lectures.
> >>>
> >>> The most surprising aspect of the class was his style of teaching;
> >>> this was not covered by any of the previous materials I found
> >>> before deciding to attend. Narbik style of teaching the CCIE boot
> >>> camp makes him the most animated and entertaining trainer I have
> >>> ever met. He incorporates jokes and anecdotes into every one of
> >>> his lectures. He manages to keep the energy level steady from day
> >>> 1 to day 5. There were moments where the whole class was laughing
> >>> so hard we had to take a break. He spends most of the 12 hour
> >>> class on his feet during lectures and walking around to do real-time
explanations during labs.
> >>> Some concepts I had difficulty grasping through reading and bullet
> >>> point led explanations related to QoS (Routing and Switching),
> >>> Security, IGP/EGP and Multicasting were presented with humor and
> >>> made so rudimentary that I walked away ready to tackle any lab
> >>> scenario. I plan to re-take the class just for the entertainment
value.
> >>>
> >>> Throughout the class, Narbik provides his contact information and
> >>> requests we contact him with any questions during or after the
> >>> class regardless of time. His philosophy is that the real
> >>> relationship with the students begins on the last day of the boot
> >>> camp and continues even after getting the coveted number. Narbik
> >>> also provided a study plan geared towards passing the CCIE Lab
> >>> exam. If I can muster the discipline to follow his plan, my number is
not far away.
> >>>
> >>> Narbik s CCIE boot camp is not for the faint of heart. You MUST
> >>> know the basics at a CCNP or higher level before attending. His
> >>> classes are not designed for those who have a passing interest in the
CCIE.
> >>> It is designed for the seriously committed and will stretch your
> >>> knowledge of the Cisco IOS and routing/switching concepts; it may
> >>> even humble your understanding of the IOS and CCIE topics. You
> >>> WILL learn something new about every Cisco CCIE Lab Blueprint topic!
> >>>
> >>> After attending this class, I can confirm Narbik teaches only
> >>> using the whiteboard and hand drawn diagrams. Narbik s approach
> >>> to teaching the CCIE is unlike any of the other classes I ve taken
> >>> over my 2+ years of studying. There is no single source of
> >>> materials for earning the CCIE certification. As part of the
> >>> current crop of CCIE candidates, I feel blessed with the
> >>> availability of high quality materials from well reputed vendors.
> >>> The best way to pass the lab exam is to use a combination of the
> >>> highest regarded materials as study tools. Each one contributes to a
niche of learning.
> >>>
> >>> However, I highly recommend every CCIE candidate attend at least
> >>> one of Narbik s classes. I ve been able to clearly understand
> >>> some of the concepts that eluded me from books, DocCD and other
> >>> materials. At the very least, attending Narbik s class will give
> >>> you an excellent gauge of your readiness to attempt the lab exam.
> >>>
> >>> Bottom line, if you want to pass the CCIE Lab, attend a boot camp
> >>> by Narbik.
> >>>
> >>> As far as Narbik s ability to recall IOS commands from memory -
> >>> It s official, Narbik is an extension of the Cisco IOS Command
reference.
> >>>
> >>> Review by George Philip.
> >>> gphilip88_at_gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Warm Regards
> >> Raghav
> >>
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