RE: Planning a bootcamp

Taking the lab of another CCIE track can renew a previous CCIE you have. We
have asked in the past. You are not allowed to take the same exam again
unless you let your certification lapse. Who wants to do that ;)

Anthony was spot on.

Regards,
 
Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208

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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Kambiz Agahian
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:09 AM
To: john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira
Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: Planning a bootcamp

Guys,

I'd open a case with the Cert support team to verify my interpretation.
In cases like this no one wants to take a risk.

HTH

--------------------------
Kambiz Agahian
CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
Technical Instructor
CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.c
om] On Behalf Of john matijevic
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:57 PM
To: Anthony Sequeira
Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp

Anthony,
According to Cisco website again:

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html

CCIEs Are Required to Recertify Every Two Years
Active CCIE status shows your commitment to maintaining expert-level
knowledge in an industry critical to the success of virtually every
organization. CCIEs are encouraged to continually expand their technical
knowledge and are required to* pass a recertification exam* every two
years.
If you do not complete your recertification before the deadlines, your
CCIE
certification will be suspended and you and your employer will lose the
benefits associated with your expert status. You have one year to
reinstate
your CCIE status before you becomes inactive and must begin the
certification process all over again.

To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
one of
the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE lab exam,
or
either of the CCDE exams.

 If you can provide documentation stating otherwise this is directly
from
Cisco's website and applies to all CCIE tracks.

I personnaly believe that CCIE should have to recertify by taking the
lab
again. Probably would eliminate many becuase of the cost but in the end
I
believe you will have stronger engineers, and since the lab exam topics
are
closely related to job functions of Senior level engineer.

But if you can provide documentation stating otherwise. I would have to
go
by what Cisco has documented on the website, unless they posted
inaccurate
information.

Warm regards,
John Matijevic

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
wrote:
> The lab exam you are referring to is in another track.
>
> So - the only way that I can take the R&S exam again is to let my R&S
certification expire.
>
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, john matijevic wrote:
>
>> Good Evening Gentlemen,
>> As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
>>
>> First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
>> As stated in earlier thread.
>> "Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take
the
>> lab exam again"
>>
>> According to Cisco recertification documenation:
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>> Recertification Details
>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to
pass
>> one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
>> lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
>>
>> It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
>>
>> Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
>> is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other
folks
>> in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
>> student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
>> retake the written and the lab exam again.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> John Matijevic
>>
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino
<jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
wrote:
>>> As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or
person
>>> is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
>>> materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the
skills
>>> necessary to earn one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
wrote:
>>>> Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has
nothing
>>>> to do with whether they know what they are doing.
>>>>
>>>> And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
>>>>
>>>> Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but
he's
>>>> not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
>>>> technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the
lab.
>>>>
>>>> It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony
would
>>>> do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
>>>>
>>>> Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
>>>> Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got
his
>>>> first one! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience,
that's
why I
>>>> mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that
someone
that has
>>>> just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the
most
current
>>>> training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions
either
way
>>>> are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be
teaching the
>>>> next routing and switching bootcamp.
>>>>
>>>> Danke,
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira
<asequeira_at_ine.com>
  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Charles!
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
regarding
the
>>>> INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
>>>>
>>>> I think that basing this very important decision on which
organization has
>>>> instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track
that
they
>>>> have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct
approach.
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at
IPexpert
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what
bootcamp
>>>>
>>>> should I
>>>>
>>>> take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has
instructor
>>>> which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott
Morris and
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
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