RE: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!

Why is everyone here so obsessed with "cheaters". Who saw those
"braindumps" here? Do they actually work and do pose a threat ? With
1% passing rate I doubt. You are trying to fight a non existing
problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Hosford
Sent: 6-May-10 18:29
To: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com; Jeffrey Pazahanick; ben edgar
Cc: CCIE Groupstudy
Subject: RE: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!

One of the things I thought that the two day exam did really well was
slow down the cheating. You needed 20 points by noon on the first
day. If you couldn't get that far you didn't come back for 6 months.
You didn't get to see the whole test. Back then most people felt that
*if* you made it to the troubleshooting section in the afternoon of
the Second day you were going to pass. I actually like the trouble
shooting section first if you have to pass it to see the rest of the
test. If you fail troubleshooting you have to wait 6 months that would
be more than fair and reasonable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Astorino [mailto:jastorino_at_ipexpert.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:20 PM
To: Robert Hosford; Jeffrey Pazahanick; ben edgar
Cc: CCIE Groupstudy
Subject: Re: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!

The whole test was exposed before -- OEQ did nothing to solve the
problem. Way to go Cisco, nice job! I comend this decision!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hosford <rhosford_at_certifiednets.com>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:14:34
To: Jeffrey Pazahanick<jeffpaz_at_gmail.com>; ben edgar<bedgar2500_at_gmail.com>
Cc: Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: RE: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!

But you still get the whole test correct? The whole test is exposed
instead of just parts.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of Jeffrey Pazahanick
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:46 AM
To: ben edgar
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!

Ben,

I think they have found the solution to cheating with the
troubleshooting section.
It's pretty difficult to pass that piece if you don't know the
protocols inside and out..

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:42 AM, ben edgar <bedgar2500_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> So I guess Cisco doesn't care about cheating anymore?
> That's the reason they were brought in in the first place right?
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:29 PM, ccievoice1 <ccievoice1_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's great news!!
>>
>> What about the rest of the tracks?
>>
>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Who is the mouth breather on the phone.... OMG.
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>>> > Behalf Of
>>> Troy
>>> > F.
>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:16 AM
>>> > To: Nathan Richie
>>> > Cc: Cisco certification
>>> > Subject: Re: R&S OEQ's are GONE!!
>>> >
>>> > not only for RS, OEQ is gone for Voice too!
>>> >
>>> > Erik Ullanderson just announced this on the webex!
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Effective May 10th
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