RE: OT: CCDE Study

Luan,

The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.

thanks,
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Luan Nguyen
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study

Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
questions
and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
than
toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
and
do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
finish
in 6 hours!
In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
to
think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
always
be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
heard
someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
have
to prepare for :)
So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
already
passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)

I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
to
lower fee, which will....etc, etc.

--------------------------------
Luan Nguyen
Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Larry H
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
To: Ronnie Angello
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study

Thanks I will check those out.

Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
wrote:

> The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are good when
> you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com.
>
> All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and build
> your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit down
> on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
> process and time management.
>
> Ronnie
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Hello Group:
>> I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
>> Along with the obligatory book list, what are others that are working
toward
>> CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
>> I have a reservation about classroom training for this track, but
have
not
>> ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a classroom
setting
>> might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the requirements but
the
>> knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the possible solutions
has
to
>> be something that comes from actual design / implementation
experience.
>>
>> Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE specific groups /
lists?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203
>> Check Out MyBlog: http://ccie12203.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>
>>
Received on Mon Apr 12 2010 - 09:26:10 ART