RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

Shaun,

Cisco considers anything that is not officially Cisco curriculum "grey
Market". It is something they say to attempt to reduce the legitimacy of
the material ;) Which is funny because many in the Cisco 360 program
continue to offer their own "grey market" material to supplement the 360
program or give them an advantage over other 360 providers.

Again to say what I said earlier money is what makes the world goes round in
the business community and if you can't accept that notion then you are in
for a rude awaking in your career. So to see this as anything other than
increasing the revenue stream whether that be upfront or in the end is a
silly notion. We all conform to that because we see the benefit it provides
ourselves.

Regards,
 
Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jones [mailto:shaunjon29_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:43 PM
To: 'Tyson Scott'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

What is grey market???

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tyson Scott
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:32 AM
To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

In a capitalist market money is what makes the world go round ;) Whether
you like it or not we are all playing the Cisco game. Cisco just decided to
give a bone to those that are willing to pay for it. As Scott has already
mentioned for himself, we are not pass4sure organizations so we have been
working hard to prepare students as better engineers for quite some time.
There will be no change from that model moving forward. We simply offer
great training products and in the end the better products will show their
true colors. Let's see if numbers change for training vendors. A tale tale
sign of the success of the program is the people they are helping to pass
the exam. I believe we, training programs in the "grey market", have the
fastest growing lists for a reason in the CCIE training markets. We have
simply been working on a successful program for a good time and continue to
model our products after that model in a more cost effective manner. If
that changes and sways another way then Cisco has made a good move. But I
am willing to stay doing what I am because I am confident in my ability to
help people to learn the material and pass their CCIE.

So I would encourage instead of continuing to be upset about it, as I myself
have been a bit, to continue your work and show your knowledge and skills
with the CCIE number as an outward verification of that knowledge. Wasting
your energy on something that is out of your control is energy that can be
put into greater use in working on things that are within your control.

Regards,
 
Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
eFax: +1.810.454.0130

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Galligan
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:02 AM
To: Rolf
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

If you really need the 8hrs, you didn't prepare properly.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Rolf <schaerer_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's not about buying your CCIE or not. Let's face it, if
> you're prepared and ready for the lab you should be able to answer the
> four questions - you can miss one, but the rules should be fair...
> It really depends what the rules are for the waiver qualified
> candidates. If they do get the whole 8 hours for 2 sections of the
> exam, you can practically say that with the 360 program, you can buy
> yourself more configuration time, and this can be crucial...
>
> Just my 2 Rappen
> Regards,
>
> Rolf
> CCIE #17218 (R&S, SP, SAN)
> Cisco Networking Academy of Eastern Switzerland
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>
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