Re: Buy Your CCIE With 360 Program

i would like to sponsor "CCIE earned not purchased"

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I guess for all of us (me included) who still need to pass the lab,
> it's just a matter of studying as hard as we always did and then the
> OEQ won't be a problem.
>
> I guess for all who are already CCIE, they know whether they passed by
> blood, sweat and tears or by luck or by Pass4Sure or by this waiver,
> and will have to live with their own conscience for the rest of their
> life.
>
> I know people who are not CCIE who know more than a CCIE.
> I know I know more than some people who are CCIE.
>
> In the end, it's "just" a certification and ultimately doesn't mean
> anything. I agree that the playing field should be level, but we don't
> make the rules, we just play by them. I once heard someone say that
> they should change the rules of soccer to make it more attractive to
> watch (like football). But hey, those are the rules, and if you don't
> like them then don't watch soccer.
>
> Having 30 minutes less time just means that I have to work harder to
> pass. It's not impossible, and it just makes the victory sweeter... In
> a fact, it's no different than it is now, and I have 13 R&Sv4 passes
> on my list so there are more... If those people can, then we can too,
> right?
>
> Now, with all the time we all spend one this "news" we could have
> learned something that could actually help us pass the lab (or the
> OEQ), so I suggest we go back to the order of the day, and follow
> Scott's advice: Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard and be
> Eeeeviiiil...... and let the 360 guys get their waivers.
>
> My 2ct
>
> Marc
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:34, Muzammil Malick <malickmuz_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Just my 2 cents, but I guess the complaint here is not really about the
> > questions,
> > Its more a matter of principal of people having a level playing field.
> > This goes for candidates and training providers.
> > This would be made even worse if people who sign the waiver actually get
> an
> > extra half hour to carry to their
> > lab. That would be totally out of order.
> > It's as we have always said though, it is Cisco's exam and they will do
> as
> > they please, and if we don't like it
> > we know what to do.
> >
> > On 16 March 2010 05:59, rakesh madupu <raaki.88_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> may be they will have some pre req or getting 80% above in mock labs or
> so
> >> ... we are not yet clear with this statement yet ! but do agree with
> others
> >> above
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Next they will be waiving the entire lab exam because you took the
> >> > 360............ LAME!
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Apparently, you can now buy your CCIE, instead earn it. Cisco have
> >> > > announced that "qualifying" 360 program students can now bypass OEQ
> >> > > section of the exam.
> >> > >
> >> > > Please, take a moment to read our (IPexpert) response here:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://blog.ipexpert.com/no-oeqs-for-cisco-360-students-not-quite/
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (earned and not bought)
> >> > > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> > >
> >> > > Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> > > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >
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> >> > --
> >> > -Steve Di Bias
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