Re: Advice on reading the whole lab before starting?

All you need now is a mathematical equation and you are there Anthony :)

Regards
Roy

On 4 March 2010 21:09, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:

> Thanks Larry! I forwarded your first line to my wife.
>
> Hey - your insight made me think of something else important about this...
>
> "So, reading the lab is something that I highly recommend. Where some folks
> get caught up is when reading the entire lab they are trying to "solve" it
> at the same time so they waste time during this phase. Read the lab to
> identify dependencies and key sections."
>
> Something else that can happen with that level of detailed advanced reading
> is that students can try and "solve" tasks as they read ahead, and their
> confidence can become absolutely destroyed when they see a bunch of stuff
> they had not thought about in advance. We know that passing the lab is all
> about A) Tech knowledge B) Strategy and C) Psychology. You certainly need
> to
> make sure your part B assists with parts A and C. Hmmm, I am starting to
> sound like Petr L....
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Larry Hadrava
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: Anthony Sequeira
> Cc: groupstudy_at_nyms.net; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Advice on reading the whole lab before starting?
>
> Anthony is right on (as usual ) :-)
>
> As Anthony explained well, learning to spot the dependencies is imperative.
> Lets just say that I would be one lab fee richer if i would have better at
> doing that back in 2003:-)
>
> So, reading the lab is something that I highly recommend. Where some folks
> get caught up is when reading the entire lab they are trying to "solve" it
> at the same time so they waste time during this phase. Read the lab to
> identify dependencies and key sections.
>
> The strategy that you employ will also be your own. I have found in
> dealing
> with folks over the years that there is no one size fits all strategy.
> There
> are some great overall strategies, but there will be things that might not
> suit you.
>
> --
> Thanks
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203
> Check Out MyBlog: http://ccie12203.wordpress.com/
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > One of the many beauties (and complexities) of passing the CCIE Lab Exam
> is
> > the fact that the strategy you use to pass it, the EXACT strategy, will
> > most
> > likely be pretty unique from anything you have been taught or heard.
> >
> > My own personal strategy for reading ahead in the configuration section
> of
> > the lab exam (that was my only section way back in Feb '06) was a bit of
> a
> > hybrid of what I learned from Keith Barker and Brian McGahan.
> >
> > I chose to "skim" the entire Config section. This took under 5 minutes. I
> > then started with Layer 2 Cat regardless of what section they presented
> > first. In this Layer 2 Cat section, I read all of the tasks carefully
> > before
> > starting any config. This would take well under 5 minutes as well.
> >
> > One important caveat to my approach of solving the lab is this...you need
> > to
> > be "inherently" aware of interdependencies with the technologies and
> > potential future lab tasks. For example, in a Frame Relay configuration,
> we
> > need to be extremely cautious regarding OSPF network type requirements
> that
> > might explicitly or implicitly exist. I certainly became "expert level"
> at
> > catching these issues and embraced my own personal lab strategy as a
> > result.
> >
> >
> > One of the beauties of workbook and graded labs practice is that you have
> a
> > chance to develop and practice your own personal strategy at a
> dramatically
> > reduced price compared to practicing in the actual lab! :-) Be sure you
> > take
> > advantage of that.
> >
> > - Anthony Sequeira
> > www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > groupstudy_at_nyms.net
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:47 AM
> > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Advice on reading the whole lab before starting?
> >
> > Not sure if anyone commenting on here has passed v4, but I've tried and
> > time
> > is definitely of the essence.
> >
> > So I'm wondering - for all you guys who've passed v3 or v4, did you read
> > the
> > whole task list through first? I know INE recommend to read it (and if
> it's
> > good enough to read once, it's good enough to read twice). Problem is -
> > when
> > I do this, it takes at least 30 minutes to read through just once. You
> read
> > the task, have a preliminary look at the routers involved on the diagram
> > and
> > make some notes (which often just regurgitate the task).
> >
> > If I read through, I spend time on each task familiarising with the
> > topology
> > and state of the part of the network relevant to the task. Then I move
> onto
> > the next task and by the time I go through the whole task list, the first
> > bits are largely forgotten.
> >
> > So I'm wondering, would it be SO dangerous to just do the tasks in a
> linear
> > fashion, reading a task through, then completing it before doing the next
> > task? I figure I can gain an extra 45 minutes odd doing this, and the
> tasks
> > are designed to be linear anyway.
> >
> > Or am I just being too detailed in the task reading? Is the point in this
> > to
> > get a general idea of what's coming without assessing the finer points of
> > the topology on each task?
> >
> > Very keen to hear the strategy of passers, especially recent ones...
> > THANKS!
> >
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