Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?

The integrity of the program has begun it's final decent to irrelevance. One
has to wonder what this is supposed to achieve.
The appeal the program had was, the depth of knowledge a successful
candidate had, the isolation of the qwacks from the experts, exclusivity
implied by the fact that cisco's seal of approval & high standards stood
behind a candidate. In one swoop, they have relegated the certification to
nothing more than a professional level cert, Based on the fact that most of
us know someone who passed one of the CCXPs in less than 2 weeks, the wisdom
in Cisco's decision is questionable.

If the rogues in Asia who ship out CCIEs like toyota recalls it's vehicles
from the market were having fun before, wait and see how comical this move
will be. What a shame..those jokers in the board rooms need to loosen their
ties & stop think from their backends.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Poplawski, James <
jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:

> I hope people are joking about how horrible the food is. That should be
> the last thing you're thinking about. I'll eat bread and water, because
> when I pass, I'm going for a nice steak!
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> Maybe that's another reason why so few Vue centers are chosen. Perhaps
> these sites have the backend infrastructure (redundant point to points,
> etc). Running into PC problems at VUE for the Lab is a little more
> concerning than a $150 written exam.
>
> Again, if you're wondering about the food, I think you're wasting mental
> energy that could be focused on studying or enjoying life!
>
> Stay positive, back to MPLS reading before something breaks...*knocks on
> wood*
> JB
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> From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:40 AM
> To: Poplawski, James
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> I'm not fond of the idea because I still feel that this devalues the
> certification regardless of what Cisco says. I'm still going to continue
> forward but I am not pleased with the decision. I'm looking forward to
> hearing some candidate feedback from folks who go to Pearson. How
> completely horrible is the food? How does the proctor piece get handled?
> Will it be a marketing opportunity for Ciscos collaboration products? Will
> results be handled the same way? Will the real lab (just as troubleshooting
> is now) be virtualized or will we be remotely hitting some rack in SJ or
> RTP? Lots of questions.
>
> PS: I was kinda joking about Slapout. Any test I can take there is not
> worth taking...
>
> Charles Henson
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> I'm assuming (and we all know that means) is because of the proximity to
> Cisco's main offices and/or the caliber of these testing centers. I know
> I've taken the written exams and they don't look anything like this testing
> center... http://www.pearsonvue.com/ppc/
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> I would say this is pretty bittersweet. On one hand, it'll be easier to
> get to a test center, the other, I won't be able to see how awesome a true
> Cisco campus really is.
>
> Regards!
> JB
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> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:17 AM
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> I don't understand.... We have a Pearson in Slapout Alabama right south of
> where I live. Why only Dallas and Chicago?
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> Charles Henson
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> I really want to take the Chicago Lab, but is this only offered in April.
> I'm hoping this is a pilot and perhaps it's something they'll look at doing
> in the future.
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> In my experience, if there's a paper CCIE, they'll be weeded out when
> they're on the job. I know when I go in and pass, I'll know I earned it,
> without brain dumps and know what I'm doing. OR I'll have the knowhow and
> ingenuity to find the solution.
>
> Happy studying! Hello Chi-town!
> JB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:46 AM
> To: Marko Milivojevic
> Cc: Tom Solski; groupstudy
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> Because you don't have the ACLU.B Not our fault.B (grin)
>
> j/k
>
> I agree though.B Don't do anything bad, and you'll never care who has
> your fingerprints or doesn't!
>
> Scott
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> Marko Milivojevic wrote:
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> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 13:31, Tom Solski <tom.solski_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Why a private company needs my fingerprint ? What about a blood sample
> and DNA ? Thats is too much privacy invasion.
>
> They don't take fingerprints, only "palm-vein" prints. They used to
> take fingerprints, I think.
>
> Besides, if you don't like it, don't take the test... If you want to
> take the test, accept the rules. Why is it acceptable for DHS to
> fingerprint me, but when Americans are fingerprinted in other
> countries, it becomes privacy violation? ;-)
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> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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