very true, Charlies.
On 2010-02-04 16:31, Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com wrote:
> I wouldn't look at this as an "attack" on dynamips guys. Many vendors
> employ similar licensing models. Citrix uses it on their load balancing and
> firewalling appliances. CheckPoint uses the same. Even the Cisco ACE at one
> point was going to allow features based on license key. I think they went
> away from it on that platform. Anyway, I think you can look at this as just
> a more targeted licensing method. You know there's some actuary deep in the
> bowels of Cisco making 7 figures to tell the product managers how to
> "maximize profit".
>
> Charles Henson
>
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> Tom,
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> No one has promised it to be a fun, have they? It was no descent
> Dynamips version in 2005 when I hit my first lab attempt. It wasn't much
> better in the end of 2006 when I hit my last attempt. You guys are lucky
> to have this chance to save some money for your families. Too bad it is
> not gonna last forever.
>
> One can mark Cisco greedy for changing a licensing policy but how about
> change in technologies? Dynamips will always be behind should Cisco
> change a gear set for the RS/SP labs and we are back at square one with
> rack rentals, home labs or otherwise. Look at the Wireless track; you
> have to have that gear to pass! :-)
>
> I use Dynamips quite often to give a quick go on some interesting
> scenarios; it is a VERY convenient tool. And I use it for my SP preps.
> But I have yet to click on a "Donation" button on their home page. Have
> you? Maybe they need just a bit of our support to catch up with giant
> Cisco? :-)
>
> Anyways, with Dynamips gone, we have an option to move along or we can
> stick to it and cry about unfairness ... a personal choice to make. :-)
>
> My .02 AUD incl GST.
>
> A.
>
>
>
> On 2010-02-04 14:33, Tom Solski wrote:
>
>> Not fun for me as I will not spend 30K on dynampips replacement. Not
>> fun for the vendors as I will not spend that money on rack rentals
>> either... All that money to have a priviledge to attempt an exam
>> with1% passing score ? I suppose I am not the only one who thinks that
>> way.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Brad Ellis
>> Sent: 3-Feb-10 23:46
>> To: Thameem Maranveetil Parambath; Cisco certification
>> Subject: RE: OT - Cisco plans to restrict using IOS for dynamips!
>>
>> Yeah, that's nothing new. It was coming eventually. Just wait for the
>> lab to change to IOS 15.X. That'll really be fun.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brad Ellis
>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> CCSI# 30482
>> CEO / President
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Thameem Maranveetil Parambath
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:20 PM
>> To: Cisco certification
>> Subject: OT - Cisco plans to restrict using IOS for dynamips!
>>
>> It is going to be another hurdle in obtaining the CCIE ! From IOS 15
>> onwards
>> cisco plans to restrict the use of ios with license keys!
>>
>>
>> http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid7_gci138
>> 0607,00.html?track=NL-79&ad=747805&asrc=EM_NLN_10798953&uid=7950426
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