Re: What about the troubleshooting part - allowed commands

Bet it would be hard to find someone with experience who didn't use the sh run command at least a couple of times when troubleshooting something..

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From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:35:10
To: <smorris_at_ine.com>
Cc: S Malik<ccie.09_at_gmail.com>; Marko Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>; CCIE-Newbie<ccie_ka_at_gmx.de>; Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: What about the troubleshooting part - allowed commands

When there is a problem, i recommend doing anything possible to fix the
problem as fast as possible, but to say you can not use the show run to
resolve a problem, its crazy, i dont think you will face that in the real
world or the CCIE lab. Could you imagine, you walk in to your clients firm,
and he asks you to fix this problem without using the following SHOW
commands.
Next thing you know they will remap the keys on the keyboard.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> It is crazy to rely on show run if you are dealing with a significant
> amount of routers. Why not learn to let the routers/switches tell you what
> the problem is?
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> Yes, it's a useful tool, but it doesn't preclude needing to know other
> things.
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> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
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> It is crazy to do bunch of show commands with regexp just to avoid the sh
> runs, show run is a useful tool when Troubleshooting.
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM, S Malik <ccie.09_at_gmail.com> <ccie.09_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> If you like to Master the troubleshooting then please do it without using
> "sh run".
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:31, CCIE-Newbie <ccie_ka_at_gmx.de> <ccie_ka_at_gmx.de> wrote:
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> Hi group,
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> currently I'm playing around with troubleshooting labs.
> Please can anyone tell me if can do a "show run" or just like "show run
> int x/y " ??
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>
> Yes, you can. There are no artificial restrictions in that section.
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> I heard it is not allowed in the troubleshooting section to do this
> commands !!
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> Some training vendors have troubleshooting labs in which they impose
> this restriction to force you not to use your best troubleshooting
> tool ( ;-) ), with the purpose to learn other show and debug commands.
> It's not something you will see on the lab, however.
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