Absolutely agreed. However, in a 10-device network, it's harder to
simulate HUGE networks... So to help facilitate the LEARNING of a
skillset (non-show-run troubleshooting) we induce artificial criteria.
Kinda like in the real world when you want to influcence BGP path choice,
your customer is not going to come in and say "Don't use weight,
local-pref or origin-code to do this."
If they do, I'd smack 'em. ;)
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Narbik Kocharians wrote:
When there is a problem, i recommend doing anything possible to fix
the problem as fast as possible, but to say you can not use the show
run to resolve a problem, its crazy, i dont think you will face that
in the real world or the CCIE lab. Could you imagine, you walk in to
your clients firm, and he asks you to fix this problem without using
the following SHOW commands. Next thing you know they will remap the
keys on the keyboard.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
wrote:
It is crazy to rely on show run if you are dealing with a
significant amount of routers. Why not learn to let the
routers/switches tell you what the problem is?
Yes, it's a useful tool, but it doesn't preclude needing to know
other things.
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Narbik Kocharians wrote:
It is crazy to do bunch of show commands with regexp just to avoid the sh
runs, show run is a useful tool when Troubleshooting.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM, S Malik <ccie.09_at_gmail.com> wrote:
If you like to Master the troubleshooting then please do it without using
"sh run".
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Marko Milivojevic < markom_at_ipexpert.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:31, CCIE-Newbie <ccie_ka_at_gmx.de> wrote:
Hi group,
currently I'm playing around with troubleshooting labs.
Please can anyone tell me if can do a "show run" or just like "show run
int x/y " ??
Yes, you can. There are no artificial restrictions in that section.
I heard it is not allowed in the troubleshooting section to do this
commands !!
Some training vendors have troubleshooting labs in which they impose
this restriction to force you not to use your best troubleshooting
tool ( ;-) ), with the purpose to learn other show and debug commands.
It's not something you will see on the lab, however.
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