Re: Vendor rights

Shit happens and well, I doubt most *reputable* vendors will cancel a
bootcamp so close to the date unless there are extenuating
circumstances.

That said, contract is a contract. While I think, personally, that it
is BS in 99% of cases, I don't run a training center. If anyone wants
to help me run one and if I can get customers at the rates necessary
to guarantee cancellation within, oh lets say, 4 weeks of the
bootcamp, I'm down.

Considering the amount of flexibility and redundancy that I, as a
vendor, would have to carry to support this, it would become very
expensive for my customers. I'm certainly not going to take a loss to
implement such a system.

The network business, training business, any business is about the
same: if you want to limit failures, expect to pay more to support
redundancy.

-- 
William McCall, CCIE #25044
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:13 PM,  <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com> wrote:
> Im sorry, but that is the most stupid response I have ever heard. So you are
> telling me to book a flight 2 weeks before the class? YEAH! OK!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> To: Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> Cc: Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>; Papa Bear <papabr43_at_gmail.com>;
> ccielab <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 4:58 pm
> Subject: Re: Vendor rights
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> Make sure you read the terms and don't book your hotels/flights/rental cars
> until you are sure it is going to happen.
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> Sent from Kansas City, Missouri, United States
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> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
>> They are allowed to do it (always mentioned in the terms & conditions), but
>> it's not really nice of course :-) You really planned this stuff and I
> don't
>> recall us at IPexpert having to cancel a bootcamp on such short notice,
>> unless the instructor became ill.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick Mur
>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>> Sr. Support Engineer   IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>
>> On 15 dec 2009, at 14:43, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
>>
>> > I think they have the right ... but they need to do it in advance ...
>> > Not like 2 weeks before or so...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Iwan Hoogendoorn
>> > CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>> > Sr. Support Engineer   IPexpert, Inc.
>> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Papa Bear <papabr43_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Does anyone think it is fair for a vendor to cancel boot camps 2 weeks
>> prior
>> >> to the actual date? Is it fair for a vendor to call off the boot camp if
>> >> they don t have enough numbers to make a profit? Do all vendors work
>> this
>> >> way? Or do vendors think that we re so gullible? I am not in the name
>> and
>> >> shame game so I am not willing to discuss the vendor's name but if it
>> helps
>> >> it is a very very reputable vendor who actively participates in this
>> forum.
>> >> Has anyone else experienced this before? Is this common practice? Is
>> this
>> >> something I need to get used to? Am I being too hard on this vendor
>> given
>> >> that the next boot camp is over 6 months away?
>> >>
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>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Iwan Hoogendoorn
>> > CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
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