Re: Why take a class if no one pass?

Well said Joe.

I really don't understand what is going on here. Vendor study materials
are tools. The assumption seems to be that I if I buy the best paint
brushes in the world I should be able to paint a "Mona Lisa" on command.

You still have to learn how to use a tool, no matter how well crafted it is.

Terry

Joe Astorino wrote:
> I said it in my interview with the CCIE Agent last month and I'll say it
> here -- Nobody is going to hand you a CCIE. Despite what I have read on
> this form from some people lately, no -- nobody just decided to hand me or
> anybody else a CCIE (even if your number happens to be recent). You can
> have the best material in the world and the best instructor in the world.
> At the end of the day it still comes down to YOU putting in the hard work
> and dedication to achieve your goal. I never have claimed IPexpert or any
> other company got somebody their CCIE. A person gets their CCIE. IPexpert
> and the other refutable vendors help you achieve that goal quicker, and give
> you support along the way.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Gobind Singh Gill <gobind_at_me.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I totally agree with Iwan.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Guess you have to keep the faith and believe in yourself ...
>>> The classes teaches topics from the blueprint ... guess the exam is a
>>> bit too tricky and people should be extra sharp ...
>>> This has nothing to do weather to take a class or not.
>>> Remember that taking a class is never a guarantee that you will pass
>>> ... it increases the chance that you will pass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> What happened? No one got what it takes?
>>>>
>>>>
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