Re: Why take a class if no one pass?

So much for testimonials.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Terry Vinson
<consultant_at_tnclimited.com> wrote:
> Well said Joe.
>
> I really don't understand what is going on here. Vendor study materials are
> tools. The assumption seems to be that I if I buy the best paint brushes in
> the world I should be able to paint a "Mona Lisa" on command.
>
> You still have to learn how to use a tool, no matter how well crafted it is.
>
> Terry
>
>
> Joe Astorino wrote:
>>
>> I said it in my interview with the CCIE Agent last month and I'll say it
>> here -- Nobody is going to hand you a CCIE. Despite what I have read on
>> this form from some people lately, no -- nobody just decided to hand me or
>> anybody else a CCIE (even if your number happens to be recent). You can
>> have the best material in the world and the best instructor in the world.
>> At the end of the day it still comes down to YOU putting in the hard work
>> and dedication to achieve your goal. I never have claimed IPexpert or any
>> other company got somebody their CCIE. A person gets their CCIE.
>> IPexpert
>> and the other refutable vendors help you achieve that goal quicker, and
>> give
>> you support along the way.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Gobind Singh Gill <gobind_at_me.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I totally agree with Iwan.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Guess you have to keep the faith and believe in yourself ...
>>>> The classes teaches topics from the blueprint ... guess the exam is a
>>>> bit too tricky and people should be extra sharp ...
>>>> This has nothing to do weather to take a class or not.
>>>> Remember that taking a class is never a guarantee that you will pass
>>>> ... it increases the chance that you will pass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What happened? No one got what it takes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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