Re: 21 days and no pass ..

Considering I have suffered thru and failed the lab honestly I find that
thread absolutely infuriating. I'm not calling them cheaters. But it seems
more an act of desperation than anything. I wish these "who'll pass first"
threads would go away and we can stick to the technical stuff. The answers
to the lab are more obvious now than ever before.

1. Know EVERYTHING on the blueprint backwards and forwards.
2. Know EVERY command and EVERY argument for that command.
3. UNDERSTAND items 1 and 2 and how they relate and function. (This is key)
4. Type 125-150 wpm.

PASS

Charles Henson

                                                                                                                             
  From: Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
                                                                                                                             
  To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
                                                                                                                             
  Date: 11/09/2009 08:52 AM
                                                                                                                             
  Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
                                                                                                                             

This is what I'd call fudge factor:
http://certcollection.org/forum/thread-20816.html

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Gary Duncanson
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> Well you have a doyen Phil Remaker called in there to take a new format
lab
> getting 34 %. Did he suddenly become less capable? Of course not. It
was
> simply a new thing.
>
> I have no idea what fudge factor study aids are.
>
> Steller people will still pass the CCIE lab exam regardless of study
> materials used because there are three things vendors cant sell you.
>
> 1. A good brain
> 2. time
> 3. experience
>
> 1+2+3 = Version v4 lab pass in due course.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>
>
>> I'm sure people are scoring better than 34%. There are just no aids to
>> provide the extra fudge factor at the present time.
>>
>> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200107/msg00875.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Gary Duncanson
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not easier, if it was people would be sailing through. We haven't
>>> suddenly run out of capable students studying properly, they are out
>>> there
>>> and still at it.
>>>
>>> It's different and that requires tactical adjustments from students and
>>> trainers. Certainly there are decent training materials out there but
>>> there
>>> have been for years right back to NMC.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>>>
>>>
>>>> Correct. If anything the lab is easier now. Only 4 points for oeq.
>>>> Troubleshooting should be something we learned while doing our labs.
>>>> The lab itself only has 5 routers now instead of six. So really it is
>>>> easier for those who prepare well. We have the best training prep
>>>> materials ever available to any ccies who ever took the lab. We can't
>>>> ask for much more than this.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic
<markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:45, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About 3 months of drought and 6 months for the flooding to start.
>>>>>> This time it is different and there is more higher quality training
>>>>>> material available than ever before.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is much bigger change this time, as the format itself is
>>>>> changed. It will simply take time for people to adjust their studying
>>>>> method.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't be too worried.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Received on Mon Nov 09 2009 - 08:59:17 ART