Re: 21 days and no pass ..

Which is why I wonder why a current CCIE seems to have never been able
to pass a new revision of the CCIE Lab? If a person knows the
technologies how can they fail? Some of the best trainers and writers
for the CCIE are the ones who are failing these new labs since the 1
day was introduced in 2001 and again now. Why can't they pass?

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> Considering I have suffered thru and failed the lab honestly I find that
> thread absolutely infuriating. I'm not calling them cheaters. But it seems
> more an act of desperation than anything. I wish these "who'll pass first"
> threads would go away and we can stick to the technical stuff. The answers
> to the lab are more obvious now than ever before.
>
> 1. Know EVERYTHING on the blueprint backwards and forwards.
> 2. Know EVERY command and EVERY argument for that command.
> 3. UNDERSTAND items 1 and 2 and how they relate and function. (This is key)
> 4. Type 125-150 wpm.
>
> PASS
>
> Charles Henson
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> From: Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>
> Date: 11/09/2009 08:52 AM
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> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
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> This is what I'd call fudge factor:
> http://certcollection.org/forum/thread-20816.html
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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Gary Duncanson
> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Well you have a doyen Phil Remaker called in there to take a new format
> lab
>> getting 34 %. Did he suddenly become less capable? Of course not. It
> was
>> simply a new thing.
>>
>> I have no idea what fudge factor study aids are.
>>
>> Steller people will still pass the CCIE lab exam regardless of study
>> materials used because there are three things vendors cant sell you.
>>
>> 1. A good brain
>> 2. time
>> 3. experience
>>
>> 1+2+3 = Version v4 lab pass in due course.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>>
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>>> I'm sure people are scoring better than 34%. There are just no aids to
>>> provide the extra fudge factor at the present time.
>>>
>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200107/msg00875.html
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>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Gary Duncanson
>>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not easier, if it was people would be sailing through. We haven't
>>>> suddenly run out of capable students studying properly, they are out
>>>> there
>>>> and still at it.
>>>>
>>>> It's different and that requires tactical adjustments from students and
>>>> trainers. Certainly there are decent training materials out there but
>>>> there
>>>> have been for years right back to NMC.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Correct. If anything the lab is easier now. Only 4 points for oeq.
>>>>> Troubleshooting should be something we learned while doing our labs.
>>>>> The lab itself only has 5 routers now instead of six. So really it is
>>>>> easier for those who prepare well. We have the best training prep
>>>>> materials ever available to any ccies who ever took the lab. We can't
>>>>> ask for much more than this.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic
> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:45, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About 3 months of drought and 6 months for the flooding to start.
>>>>>>> This time it is different and there is more higher quality training
>>>>>>> material available than ever before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is much bigger change this time, as the format itself is
>>>>>> changed. It will simply take time for people to adjust their studying
>>>>>> method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't be too worried.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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