Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

Makes Sense!
Positive side is that with the new exam CCIE will continue to have shine and
weightage. Seasoned, New and Future CCIEs all wanted this.
Something I gathered from the Ver 4 experiences people have shared is that
they are more determined than ever to work harder and go for it rather than
quiting.
We all need to study harder for whatever we are pursuing.

As Scott says

Knowledge is Power
Study Hard...and be Evil

:-)

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Walter <geyetan_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> None taken cisco league it is not personal :-) Anyway trust me i have seen
> both sides of the coin as i have failed the lab first hand like every one
> else here and you don't get rid of that scar easily (i couldn't sleep for
> nights after my third failure and to make matters worse i missed my flight
> which cost me an extra #200 and i almost messed up a very major project for
> my company which would have cost me my job)
> A lot of the people you know have failed the exams due to OEQ's but a lot
> more i'm sure failed during that same window due to the main lab, you like
> all of us don't know everyone who sat for the lab but my point is no matter
> what your reason is for failing the fact is that you failed and if you
> prepare differently (harder, better, smarter i don't know I'm not a
trainer)
> you will eventually pass. I am hoping the attitude for V4 takers to Cisco
> will be "Bring it On"
>
> Ta
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Cisco League
<ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> WOW
>> Applause
>>
>> Why do you time and again fail to look at the other side of the coin? You
>> loose 2 questions and you loose the Lab.
>> Give this some thought and stop looking only at one side of the coin.
>> (Unless ofcourse all the coins you have are double headed). ;-)
>>
>> Most of the people I know failed Ver3 not on configuration portion but the
>> OEQs. Does that ring any bell and explains that they would have passed if
>> there were no OEQs.
>>
>> P.S. Don't forget the added pressure, anxiety and fear of losing all your
>> time, efforts and money invested for that one big day just because of a
>> couple of questions that you could have referenced on DocCD if u had
>> access.
>>
>> No hard Feelings ;-)
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I see why you getting all ticked off.. you actually got your # during
>> that
>> > period! Interesting :)
>> >
>> > As I said and as you have just said that 1 out of 4 questions is
>> difficult
>> > so that means you should be able to get 3 right and have 21 points on
>> the
>> > table?
>> >
>> > Now you still have what 7 hours left? and you have to grab 59 points. so
>> if
>> > you are strong @ L2/L3 (looking at the V3 feedback from GS) you should
>> be
>> > able to score 40-44 points. What that leaves you with is? 17 odd points
>> > from
>> > REST OF THE EXAM! Enough time to look through DOCCD and pick points
>> where
>> > you think you are good with.
>> >
>> > THIS is the thing with V4 and I stress its no free ride. you have NO
>> time
>> > to
>> > look up things on DOCCD so you need to know EVERYTHING or you have to
>> come
>> > back.
>> >
>> > Are you telling me that is not easy? Come on you have got to be kidding
>> me.
>> > You passed GREAT! but don't tell me it was not easy.
>> >
>> > Once again I am glad you worked hard and got your # but still easier
>> than
>> > folks who did it BEFORE feb 09 (had to score 80) or after Oct 18th.
>> >
>> > Take it for what its worth but truth hurts :)
>> >
>> > Have a blessed day!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two parts
>> or
>> > > one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where
>> personal
>> > > interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set determined
>> > your
>> > > outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers didn't
>> > jump
>> > > off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of questions
>> you
>> > > could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is 4.
>> > You
>> > > were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to
>> approach
>> > > the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many
>> people
>> > are
>> > > having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to the
>> > exam,
>> > > still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the exam
>> > with
>> > > OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to let
>> > those
>> > > questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were unsure
>> of
>> > > two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you were
>> to
>> > > dissect version 4 into 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a
>> challenge.
>> > >
>> > > Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list, besides
>> > > showing the world that you're a clown puncher.
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>> > Of
>> > > > Atlanta CCIE
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
>> > > > To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
>> > > >
>> > > > Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
>> > > >
>> > > > On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Atlanta,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed between
>> > > > Feb and
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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