You are right as long as ppl don't start cramming the WBs.
On 11/4/09, Larry Hadrava <larryh_at_ine.com> wrote:
> While I agree that troubleshooting experience in the field is a great
> requisite for the troubleshooting section, I would say that
> troubleshooting is a process. So even if you have years of troubleshooting
> in the field, are you using a GOOD process that gets you to the resolution
> both quickly and effectively?
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> I believe that is where the workbooks CAN play a role. Most of the
> troubleshooting WB's that are out do teach a methodology for the PROCESS
> of effectively troubleshooting.
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> Thanks
> Larry Hadrava
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 9:26
> Subject:Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
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> Tough luck. Goodluck on your next attempt.
>
> I will say it again that no workbook can prepare you for TS. It comes
> with experience in the field.
>
> I remember folks saying that they don't want a # over 25k. I think you
> want a RNS# over 25680 or so now so ppl know you did v4 :) no more
> free rides aka CCIE# between feb-oct 19 :)
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> Good luck you can do it .
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> On 11/4/09, Stefan Geutjes <stefan.geutjes_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm gonna join the unlucky ones who failed the v4 lab exam r&s.
>> Yesterday i took my first attempt in Brussel.
>>
>> The oeq's was fairly easy.
>>
>> Then the hell began........troubleshooting section..
>> Ive read a lot of reviews concerning "time management" before i went to
>> the
>> lab. I said to my self before i took the lab that i must spent at max 15
>> minutes on a troubleshooting ticket. I wouldnt be that stupid to spent
>> more
>> time on a ticket..............?
>> First ticket, 15 minutes past, i found no solution but i thougt im almost
>> there.........25 minutes still not working but i'm almost there, 40
>> minutes
>> damn then i realised it that i was stupid!!!! still not working and lost
> 33%
>> of my time..... then a couple was easy and i fixed them in 10-15 minutes
>> each. But ofcourse there were still 3 tickets open at the end of the 2
>> hour
>> section (plus the first so i realised that that was the end of my lab).
>>
>> But ok i wouldnt give up and thought lets do my best on the config section
>> so i be prepared better next time im gonna take the lab. (and YES i will
>> do
>> that soon...)
>> L2 was easy.
>> IGP's werent that difficult also, but was a lot of work for just a
> couple of
>> points............ In the test labs i did for internetworkexpert i could
>> earn 3 times 3 points for the same as on the real lab 1 time 3
> points.......
>> Its look like the put different questions all in one question and just for
>> that damn 3 points..
>> Next BGP.............also practised a lot before entering the lab
>> ofcourse,
>> and i also has read a lot of tips that they say that you must read first
> the
>> whole question before start typing.,..... And yes ofcourse i didnt do that
>> also. I had configured the whole section (at least 3 different questions
>> on
>> a internetworkexpertlab again put in 1 question) then i read the last line
>> of the question..........and yes i had to make some changes to all routers
>> again...
>> Advanced services wasnt that hard if you had time to read on the doccd. I
>> knew the technics and the commands but ofcourse the asked something
>> special
>> so you had to look it up and that takes time. Some 3 point questions in
>> here was just 2 lines in config (that are easy points......) next time
>> skip
>> BGP en add static routes en focus on the easy quick points ;-). The time
> was
>> far too less (i needed at least 1,5 hour extra to complete everything) so
>> i
>> couldnt do all the tasks.
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>> To make the story finishing i past the oeq and failed on the other 2.
>> If i stick to the rules i had learned before the lab maybe i made it i
>> dont
>> know. But it was a good lesson for me.
>> I know i can succesfully beat the exam if i dont give up and study
>> harder..
>> So thats what i'm doing right now.. I started today again with reading
>> doccd..
>> I'm planning to do the exam again in jan of feb 2010. And that time i dont
>> **** up!
>>
>> Stefan
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