Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

I can remember when the lab changed from the 2 day format to the 1 day
format. This was back in October of 2001 as I recall. This was shortly
after I started studying for the lab.

The conversations were similiar to what I am seeing here since this latest
change.

We were all bantering back and forth with many negative comments and even
pondering if it was possible to be "compressed" into a 1 day format.

We all know that it was possible and there were some pains at first then
as well, but it all worked out. I think that these changes, given time,
will work out as well.

Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203

Thanks

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Larry Hadrava, Larryh_at_INE.com
CCIE #12203 (R&S)
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.INE.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 12:42
Subject:Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully weeded
you out.
Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know the bp. My 2 cents
Regards,
Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&amp;S
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the exam , but
I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
   Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together a lab
exam with unrealistic &amp; unachievable expectations.
    I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's starting to
feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest preparing for
this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
  Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see how it
plays out in the next few months i guess.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Cheaters don't care about that lol
>
> On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > what about study factor?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they want until
> >> the
> >> > case is clear before we give advice.
> >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are vague.  I
> >> doubt
> >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets, based on my
> two
> >> > experience in V3.  Last time when I was there, Howard left early.  His
> >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite, humble,
> modest,
> >> and
> >> > most of all, helpful.  Thanks to the young gentleman, I was able to
> >> > clear
> >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement which
> was
> >> not
> >> > said in the entire question set.  Maybe it was mentioned in the
> preface,
> >> but
> >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
> questions.
> >> >  Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common sense)"
> or
> >> > "follow what the requirement says".
> >> >
> >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not specific and
> >> need
> >> > time and luck to pin down.  Time and luck are the focus of V4, in my
> >> humble
> >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
> >> >
> >> > Jack
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test is
> >> >> centered
> >> >> more around consulting.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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