Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:

> More constructive and extremely techinical posts from the troll.
>
> Sent from handheld.
>
> On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:16 PM, "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris - Great Review and sorry to hear you didnt pass. Results are
> > not in
> > yet so dont give up.
> >
> > Looks like soon we will have to look at CCIE#s AFTER Oct 18th 2009
> > to gauge
> > the candidate's skills :) No more free rides (for now). I can
> > already see
> > how folks got free CCIE#s between Feb-Oct18th 2009 (Yeah bitch all you
> > want).
> >
> > Chris - dont give up and hit back in 30 days.
> >
> > As for OEQs, I agree and have been saying that.
> >
> > Let the hate begin :D
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Christopher Copley <
> copley.chris_at_gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Roy,
> >>
> >> The SP track was actually some thing I was looking to do any
> >> way. Being
> >> that I am < 24 hours after my lab it might just be emotion
> >> speaking. I
> >> still want to go back and beat the R&S exam. I have put to much
> >> time and
> >> dedication in it to quit now! I will get it, i am just not sure
> >> of the
> >> path I will take to get there now.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Roy Waterman
> >> <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Chris
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your feedback & shame you didnt pass this time.
> >>> Am just wondering, you mentioned you would be pursuing the SP track.
> >>> Knowing what it will take to pass the lab, can I ask why you just
> >>> dont
> >>> carry on, & prepare to pass it?
> >>> After all, if you restart in 6-9 months, it may well take you
> >>> longer to
> >> get
> >>> back up to the stage that you are now?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Roy
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/31 Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above
> >>>> comments
> >>>> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so
> >>>> called core
> >>>> and
> >>>> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly
> >>>> perfect
> >>>> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I
> >> focused
> >>>> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services
> >>>> (i.e.
> >> ntp,
> >>>> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the
> >>>> DocCD.
> >>>> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA,
> >>>> lets say
> >> you
> >>>> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non-
> >>>> Core
> >>>> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be
> >>>> able to
> >>>> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it
> >>>> with
> >> out
> >>>> looking at the DocCD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have worked on my company's IT Emergency Response Team for a
> >>>> number of
> >>>> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting
> >>>> section is
> >>>> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The
> >>>> time limit
> >>>> and
> >>>> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing
> >>>> that
> >> was
> >>>> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset
> >>>> look on
> >>>> their face!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the
> >>>> Trouble
> >>>> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my
> >>>> experience
> >> this
> >>>> is
> >>>> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get
> >>>> tickets from
> >>>> my
> >>>> NOC that say network node "X" is unreachable, and that is ALL
> >>>> that is in
> >>>> the
> >>>> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for
> >>>> copies of
> >>>> there
> >>>> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble
> >>>> Shooting
> >>>> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam.
> >>>> This is
> >> not
> >>>> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally
> >>>> different that
> >>>> the
> >>>> V3 lab.
> >>>>
> >>>> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the
> >>>> new
> >>>> exam.
> >>>> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just
> >>>> as well
> >> as
> >>>> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is
> >>>> on the
> >>>> Blue
> >>>> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to
> >>>> be able
> >> to
> >>>> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any
> >>>> help!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new
> >>>> Trouble
> >>>> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Config section - Just like every one has said, there are less
> >>>> sections,
> >>>> but
> >>>> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a
> >>>> 5.5 hour
> >>>> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be
> >>>> in a
> >>>> rush
> >>>> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a
> >>>> stop
> >>>> watch
> >>>> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten
> >>>> your time
> >>>> on
> >>>> every study section.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My results - I dont have the official results yet, but I already
> >>>> know I
> >>>> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the
> >>>> time
> >>>> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass.
> >> When
> >>>> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly
> >>>> 30 min
> >> to
> >>>> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing
> >>>> that
> >> the
> >>>> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY
> >>>> hard to
> >>>> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when
> >>>> I knew
> >> it
> >>>> was in vain.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in
> >> maybe
> >>>> 6
> >>>> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
> >>> Roy
> >>
> >>
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