Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

Chris - Great Review and sorry to hear you didnt pass. Results are not in
yet so dont give up.

Looks like soon we will have to look at CCIE#s AFTER Oct 18th 2009 to gauge
the candidate's skills :) No more free rides (for now). I can already see
how folks got free CCIE#s between Feb-Oct18th 2009 (Yeah bitch all you
want).

Chris - dont give up and hit back in 30 days.

As for OEQs, I agree and have been saying that.

Let the hate begin :D

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com
> wrote:

> Roy,
>
> The SP track was actually some thing I was looking to do any way. Being
> that I am < 24 hours after my lab it might just be emotion speaking. I
> still want to go back and beat the R&S exam. I have put to much time and
> dedication in it to quit now! I will get it, i am just not sure of the
> path I will take to get there now.
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Roy Waterman <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback & shame you didnt pass this time.
> > Am just wondering, you mentioned you would be pursuing the SP track.
> > Knowing what it will take to pass the lab, can I ask why you just dont
> > carry on, & prepare to pass it?
> > After all, if you restart in 6-9 months, it may well take you longer to
> get
> > back up to the stage that you are now?
> >
> > Regards
> > Roy
> >
> > 2009/10/31 Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com>
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above
> >> comments
> >> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so called core
> >> and
> >> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly perfect
> >> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I
> focused
> >> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services (i.e.
> ntp,
> >> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the DocCD.
> >> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA, lets say
> you
> >> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non-Core
> >> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be able to
> >> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it with
> out
> >> looking at the DocCD.
> >>
> >> I have worked on my company's IT Emergency Response Team for a number of
> >> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting section is
> >> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The time limit
> >> and
> >> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing that
> was
> >> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset look on
> >> their face!!!
> >>
> >> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the Trouble
> >> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my experience
> this
> >> is
> >> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get tickets from
> >> my
> >> NOC that say network node "X" is unreachable, and that is ALL that is in
> >> the
> >> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for copies of
> >> there
> >> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble Shooting
> >> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam. This is
> not
> >> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally different that
> >> the
> >> V3 lab.
> >>
> >> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the new
> >> exam.
> >> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just as well
> as
> >> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is on the
> >> Blue
> >> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to be able
> to
> >> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any help!!!
> >>
> >> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new Trouble
> >> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.
> >>
> >> Config section - Just like every one has said, there are less sections,
> >> but
> >> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a 5.5 hour
> >> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be in a
> >> rush
> >> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a stop
> >> watch
> >> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten your time
> >> on
> >> every study section.
> >>
> >>
> >> My results - I dont have the official results yet, but I already know I
> >> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the time
> >> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass.
> When
> >> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly 30 min
> to
> >> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing that
> the
> >> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY hard to
> >> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when I knew
> it
> >> was in vain.
> >>
> >> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in
> maybe
> >> 6
> >> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!!
> >>
> >> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!!
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
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> > Roy
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