Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new
> Trouble
> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.

I AGREE. I don't see any reason of having OEQs since v4.0 was
released. Drilling configuration solutions as some did in the past is
useless after troubleshooting section has been introduced. No need for
OEQs anymore.

I am still not aware of anybody who passed. The new version really
stopped the rapid increase. Maybe I like it. When I started to prepare
on CCIE R&S, I considered passing the lab to be a first day of being
an expert. Today, 3 years later, I am still not an expert (and I
haven't had any attempt yet). If I feel to be an expert one day THEN I
will give it a try. This is my personal view.

Christophe, I am sure you will succeed next time. You already know
what to expect. Good luck with your studies!

Regards,
Miroslav Kosut
CCNP | CCIP | Waiting on written beta results :-)

On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Christopher Copley wrote:

> All,
>
> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above
> comments
> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so called
> core and
> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly
> perfect
> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I
> focused
> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services (i.e.
> ntp,
> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the DocCD.
> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA, lets
> say you
> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non-Core
> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be
> able to
> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it
> with out
> looking at the DocCD.
>
> I have worked on my company's IT Emergency Response Team for a
> number of
> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting
> section is
> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The time
> limit and
> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing
> that was
> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset
> look on
> their face!!!
>
> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the Trouble
> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my experience
> this is
> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get tickets
> from my
> NOC that say network node "X" is unreachable, and that is ALL that
> is in the
> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for copies
> of there
> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble Shooting
> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam. This
> is not
> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally different
> that the
> V3 lab.
>
> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the
> new exam.
> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just as
> well as
> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is on
> the Blue
> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to be
> able to
> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any help!!!
>
> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new
> Trouble
> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.
>
> Config section - Just like every one has said, there are less
> sections, but
> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a 5.5
> hour
> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be in
> a rush
> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a
> stop watch
> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten your
> time on
> every study section.
>
>
> My results - I dont have the official results yet, but I already
> know I
> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the time
> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass.
> When
> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly 30
> min to
> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing
> that the
> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY
> hard to
> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when I
> knew it
> was in vain.
>
> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in
> maybe 6
> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!!
>
> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!!
>
> Chris
>
>
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