Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

Funny how only scott is up for the challenge....

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> Well... Now back when >I< started this... The recertification was
> either a specific RECERT exam (which made most written exams look like
> something for CCNA) or pass another track's written AND lab.
>
> So I'm certainly not against making things tough there. That's back to
> the way it began as far as I'm concerned. ;) But the catch is finding
> the correct people to develop the exams.
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> Judging by the amount and types of complaints on OEQ questions, or new
> v4 R&S written, or the lab itself this may be a lot harder than it sounds.
>
> I think it's absolutely awesome where they are trying to go, but the
> question becomes how are they getting there and is the effect intended
> or not.
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> Ahhh... the good ol' days. ;)
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> Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> >> Also - let's remove the thing about recert with written. Every three
> >> years you MUST pass ANY ccie track's lab to recert. Now THAT will be
> >> something :)
> >>
> >
> > I actually suspect that's in the making. With the troubleshooting part
> > going virtual, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some sort of a
> > mini-lab as recert requirement in the future.
> >
> > Then again, written as it is now has merit from theoretical
> > perspective. In order to pass it, you need to know many technologies
> > from less hands-on perspective. In order to be "good expert", one
> > should have command of both. I believe this was Cisco's thinking with
> > OEQ's. Let me try to pain one picture for you.
> >
> > Say you are a contractor that has been called out to nervous client
> > that needs you to fix 12 problems in their network and need to make
> > some 15 changes in it - by the end of the day. At the start of the
> > day, their technical team have few questions to clear their minds.
> > They ask them. In order to leave good impression and continue to be
> > perceived as an expert in their eyes, you need to get them straight.
> >
> > Raise hands you who have been in this, or very similar, situation. I
> > have. This is precisely what CCIE lab is now trying to emulate. I
> > think it's good, we just need to work harder to achieve that level of
> > expertise. We will be better experts while Cisco keeps raising the
> > bar.
> >
> > ( I will not comment on GUI, as I have not seen it yet )
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